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I totally agree with that. But in my experience, and maybe is just plain old mid-west hospitality, the LEOs will usually take a couple of laser readings of your car before they come after you, especially if you're just doing 5 or 6 over. So the couple of times that my V1 has warned me of laser, I've been able to tap the brakes and reduce speed to avoid the ticket. Or maybe I've just been lucky.
I hear you KQ. But I don't think they take a "couple" of readings, I think they are taking one continuous reading. 5 or 6 mph over posted SL is definitely not means for pulling you over. So, if that's all you're doing, I don't think it is the laser detector saving you. My rule is no more than 9 over if you want to be 'safe'. 10+ is cause for a traffic stop. Also, the lidar beam can be as small as 18" over a few thousand feet so the officer can get a reading on your front end without your dash-mounted detector ever alerting, or alerting late. Several times, my laser jammers (I have really cheap, near-worthless ones on two cars) have alerted before my Uniden, if the Uniden even alerts at all.


Again, if you don't have laser jammers and only a dash-mount laser detector, you are almost driving unprotected. If you're lucky, you can pick up some scatter from the shots the officer is taking of the car in front of you.


But don't forget about other tools like waze and, most of all, situational awareness. Situational awareness can be more powerful than any active or passive counter measure. But, just like auto theft protection, ticket protection is a layered defense. No one thing can keep you 100% immune from tickets (short of slowing down, lol) but, stack them, and you can help reduce your odds.
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As they say, a laser detector is basically an alert to tell you that you just earned yourself a ticket. You really need a good laser jammer ("parking sensors", if you will). ALP is highly rated but their heads are so big, I can't see where they would go on our front ends. I am looking into Stinger but, dang, they are pricey. You buy a good Stinger system and you could have paid for 5+ speeding tickets. The average driver receives a ticket once every 5 years. So it's hard to justify the purchase. But, it's also hard to put a price on the gratification of jamming a laser reading. My point is, don't sweat too much over a high end radar detector unless your state's law enforcement uses a lot of radar. Here in SoCal, it's almost always laser.
I can see why laser guns are preferred in high traffic density areas like SoCal. Pinpointing a speed radar signal to a specific car with many other cars on the road is difficult to do. Speed lasers are focused on a single car so there's no question as to what the speed is. The only advantage you have with laser is that they can't be operated from a moving police car as they have to be stationary to aim properly.

Out here in the sticks, radar is used as the primary speed device, so a detector will give you more notice on the highways. Of course, there's always instant-on radar you have to deal with and that usually means a ticket unless your detector is picking up the cop's radar signature while shooting a car ahead of you.
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Out here in the sticks, radar is used as the primary speed device, so a detector will give you more notice on the highways. Of course, there's always instant-on radar you have to deal with and that usually means a ticket unless your detector is picking up the cop's radar signature while shooting a car ahead of you.
Same situation here in KS. 95% of speed traps are radar and typically always on radar.
My V1 is great a picking up Laser and at least it alerts me to when this happens. I've read that the Unidens may not be that great at detecting the Laser light.

Seems that the situation in CA is pretty much Laser, which makes it way more difficult and expensive to counter.

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Same situation here in KS. 95% of speed traps are radar and typically always on radar.
My V1 is great a picking up Laser and at least it alerts me to when this happens. I've read that the Unidens may not be that great at detecting the Laser light.

Seems that the situation in CA is pretty much Laser, which makes it way more difficult and expensive to counter.
Laser jammers aren't a free ride to speed either. They aren't foolproof and spending over $1000 to outfit your car would pay for a few tickets and then some. I won't use them.
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I don't know about other states but in CA, law enforcement needs two methods of measuring your speed in order to pull you over for speeding. Typically these two methods are visual estimation (they are trained for this) and a speed reading (lidar or radar gun). Pacing is another common one. I don't believe they are allowed to time you between two known points here in CA. I haven't heard any stories of officers shooting the rear of the vehicle with lidar.


My last ticket was in 2012, where I was nabbed with lidar.

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My last ticket was in the previous century. I've been lucky so far.

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My last ticket was in 2009 and after that one I bought my Valentine One.

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No offense to Valentine but I am so sick and tired of looking at that one dude's big bald head in every Valentine ad in every Motor Trend, Road & Track, and Car & Driver I have read for as far back as I can remember.
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No offense to Valentine but I am so sick and tired of looking at that one dude's big bald head in every Valentine ad in every Motor Trend, Road & Track, and Car & Driver I have read for as far back as I can remember.
Ha ha! Yes! They badly need a new ad, and more than that they need new products.
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No offense to Valentine but I am so sick and tired of looking at that one dude's big bald head in every Valentine ad in every Motor Trend, Road & Track, and Car & Driver I have read for as far back as I can remember.
LOL! Mike Valentine looks like an insurance agent or an accountant to me.
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