Apple WWDC - iOS in the car - Infiniti

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pikachu412

Discussion Starter · Jun 10, 2013

If anyone followed Apple's iOS7 unveiling today, one feature that really jumped at me was "iOS in the Car" where the car screen seemed like an extension of your phone's display for basic features and appeared very seamless in the video. They showed a whole bunch of car manufacturers, including Infiniti, supposedly integrating this technology in 2014.

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The second screen of the Q50 seems perfect for this purpose. Almost as if it was designed keeping a similar idea in mind. I haven't been able to come across any information regarding the Q50 having such a feature or that infiniti's working towards it. Is it something that will be released IN 2014 so that only models 2015 onwards have them or do you guys think the software could just be updated as and when the technology is refined?

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dnet

· #2 · Jun 10, 2013

I was watching WWDC and it made me wonder if the Q50 will have this integration. I doubt it will be available on the Q50 right away since the developers are barely getting the iOS7 today.

GtoQ

· #3 · Jun 10, 2013

It should just need a software update as it would essentially just be mirroring the phone screen ...

pikachu412

Discussion Starter · #4 · Jun 10, 2013

GtoQ said:
It should just need a software update as it would essentially just be mirroring the phone screen ...

But if it's just mirroring the screen, then you would still need to control all actions through your phone, rendering the touchscreen car interface useless for that part, or am I not understanding it right?

There has to be a way you can control those actions right from your car touch screen itself. Having to reach for your phone kind of defeats the purpose of having such a system somewhat at least in my opinion.

selzini

· #5 · Jun 10, 2013

Of course, for someone like me, if would be nice if someone translated this post into old-fashioned English.

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pikachu412

Discussion Starter · #6 · Jun 10, 2013

selzini said:
Of course, for someone like me, if would be nice if someone translated this post into old-fashioned English.

It's basically taking the basic features of your phone such as calling, messaging, navigation etc and optimizing it for the car screen interface. By optimizing I mean that the look and feel of these features on your car screen will feel remarkably similar to your phone.

It's almost as if you're connecting the car display to your phone in such a way that you're "mirroring" your phone's content - whatever's on your phone is being displayed on the screen. But the downside of mirroring is that you have to reach for your phone to control anything.

But what's been shown today as part of "iOS in the car" seems like it's being incorporated in to your car screen so that you don't have to reach for your phone to control it, making use of the touchscreen instead. (I am guessing you would be able to use the touchscreen, it just seems a huge wasted opportunity othrewise). And if Navigation is a part of this, as was depicted today, then I wouldn't find the need to get a Nav package as well.

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GtoQ

· #7 · Jun 10, 2013

pikachu412 said:
But if it's just mirroring the screen, then you would still need to control all actions through your phone, rendering the touchscreen car interface useless for that part, or am I not understanding it right?

There has to be a way you can control those actions right from your car touch screen itself. Having to reach for your phone kind of defeats the purpose of having such a system somewhat at least in my opinion.

Not necessarily it could connect via AirPlay but then I suppose it would have to have some sort of AirPlay module built into the dash ... Ps welcome to the boards ...

afrosheen

· #8 · Jun 10, 2013

Should be as simple as a software update for the Q50.

QFiddyS

· #9 · Jun 10, 2013

I'm excited about the possibilities, but skeptical on how soon we'll see something that functions well. I imagine a big hurdle will be getting the powers that be to sign-off on a lot of this stuff. There's a reason you can't watch a dvd in-dash while you drive. Mirroring the functionality of an iphone will likely be even more distracting. Infiniti won't even let you type in a street name if you're going over 5 miles an hour, how would I use have the stuff on ios?

My main concern is that infiniti tries to do this or tries to retrofit the q50 software and we lose some of the functionality we currently have. I'm a big fan of bluetooth audio which has worked quite well in the G37. I can use rhapsody, pandora, my free siriusxm app, youtube or whatever from my phone and the sound quality is great.

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pikachu412

Discussion Starter · #10 · Jun 10, 2013

GtoQ said:
Not necessarily it could connect via AirPlay but then I suppose it would have to have some sort of AirPlay module built into the dash ... Ps welcome to the boards ...

Thanks GtoQ!

I don't think that it's as simple as just having to AirPlay though. Because AirPlay on the receiving end has always been a static screen (not a touchscreen) such as your TV or any display that is connected to your AppleTV. You still use the main device that you started AirPlay from in order to control most actions.

But the car has a touchscreen. So once you start AirPlay or initiate similar technology and the car screen is mirroring your phone, you are then controlling whatever is on the car screen by touching that screen itself, and not your phone. That's a huge factor and not been done till now imho.

It has to be some kind of a system that's baked in to the car's core software/firmware. Which is why unless provisioned/planned for in detail, I am not sure if it would be a simple enough update.

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QFiddyS

· #11 · Jun 10, 2013

GtoQ said:
Not necessarily it could connect via AirPlay but then I suppose it would have to have some sort of AirPlay module built into the dash ... Ps welcome to the boards ...

Airplay isn't that advanced, especially on non-apple products. It only works one way: phone to device. It also requires a wireless network to operate. So even if there was airplay compatibility, all you could do is stream music via airplay, which you can do via bluetooth now.

QFiddyS

· #12 · Jun 10, 2013

pikachu412 said:
Thanks GtoQ!

I don't think that it's as simple as just having to AirPlay though. Because AirPlay on the receiving end has always been a static screen (not a touchscreen) such as your TV or any display that is connected to your AppleTV. You still use the main device that you started AirPlay from in order to control most actions.

But the car has a touchscreen. So once you start AirPlay or initiate similar technology and the car screen is mirroring your phone, you are then controlling whatever is on the car screen by touching that screen itself, and not your phone. That's a huge factor and not been done till now imho.

It has to be some kind of a system that's baked in to the car's core software/firmware. Which is why unless provisioned/planned for in detail, I am not sure if it would be a simple enough update.

Beat me to it! And said it better than I did.

pikachu412

Discussion Starter · #13 · Jun 10, 2013

QFiddyS said:
Mirroring the functionality of an iphone will likely be even more distracting. Infiniti won't even let you type in a street name if you're going over 5 miles an hour, how would I use have the stuff on ios?

Which is why I don't think it's a mirroring type of technology. It's built in to the car and is specific to certain features of your phone that you can control through siri.

The big question for me is knowing whether this year's car can be upgraded if the feature comes out next year. I am not very sure as they would need to have everything mapped out in this year's model in order for a smooth upgrade. As I am looking to get the car towards the end of this year, it makes me wonder if I should wait to see what happens with the 2015 model. As someone who wants to purchase and keep the car for 5+ years, it's an important enough feature for me to wait for.

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QFiddyS

· #14 · Jun 10, 2013

pikachu412 said:
Which is why I don't think it's a mirroring type of technology. It's built in to the car and is specific to certain features of your phone that you can control through siri.

The big question for me is knowing whether this year's car can be upgraded if the feature comes out next year. I am not very sure as they would need to have everything mapped out in this year's model in order for a smooth upgrade. As I am looking to get the car towards the end of this year, it makes me wonder if I should wait to see what happens with the 2015 model. As someone who wants to purchase and keep the car for 5+ years, it's an important enough feature for me to wait for.

All depends on how they built their touchscreen system. My guess is this is all proprietary and won't be upgradable to ios which will likely have minimum hardware requirements to run it. Also, is iOS going to be able to adjust steering, seat positions, etc? That's going to be unique to this system and isn't going to change for a while.

They may have already known this was coming and set the system up so it can update. But in looking at the videos, they've obviously invested a lot in R&D on the software for the touchscreen, so my guess is you won't see it until they amortize the R&D. So you'll probably be waiting a while.

Gandhi

· #15 · Jun 10, 2013

Its no touch. It could be Airplay, but I suspect it may be that or bluetooth.

You control it via Apple Siri.

And Infiniti has already announced "app" functionality for their car/tech interface (see thos Pandora, Facebook and Spotify apps in promo vids, for example). It may be as simple as downloading an app.

Check video here for a better idea.

Apple unveils iOS for the Car - Autoblog

afrosheen

· #16 · Jun 10, 2013

Man, I can't wait for my iPhone to mislead me instead of the built in Navigation. /sarcasm

Seriously though...you thought Apple Maps were bad, Google Maps thought 12th street and 112th street were the same in Florida. That was a very nice departure in a town I've never been to before.

jallopSR20

· #17 · Jun 11, 2013

afrosheen said:
Man, I can't wait for my iPhone to mislead me instead of the built in Navigation. /sarcasm

Seriously though...you thought Apple Maps were bad, Google Maps thought 12th street and 112th street were the same in Florida. That was a very nice departure in a town I've never been to before.

Thankfully, there are many navigation apps that one can download...

I am looking to forward to hearing more from Infiniti about if/how this will be incorporated in the Q50, perhaps as a software update as others in this thread have suggested.

brianch

· #18 · Jun 11, 2013

I'll never move back to Apple!

NEVERRRRRRRR

#androidfan

I do want the new macbook air though

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Ranjith

· #19 · Jun 12, 2013 (Edited)

It is really saddening to see people falling for Gizmo's in cars rather than handling,engine or performance.

Last week I went with my friend to help him select a new car, the decision was between Honda Accord and Mazda 6. He selected Honda because it has 2 **** screens in it. Even though Mazda was had better driving dynamics, engine and transmission

PS: Personal opinion, no offense to intended.

selzini

· #20 · Jun 12, 2013

Ranjith said:
It is really saddening to see people falling for Gizmo's in cars rather than handling,engine or performance.

Last week I went with my friend to help him select a new car, the decision was between Honda Accord and Mazda 6. He selected Honda because it has 2 **** screens in it. Even though Mazda was had better driving dynamics, engine and transmission

PS: Personal opinion, no offense to intended.

Non-taken - and I agree with you 100%!

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