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Car & Driver just posted a test of a Q50S 3.7. Under the test notes they say "The car suffered a rare skidpad spinout". They also jump on the anti-DAS bandwagon saying "The steering is atrocious". That's getting pretty routine, but the spinout thing is a bit scary.
 

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Car & Driver just posted a test of a Q50S 3.7. Under the test notes they say "The car suffered a rare skidpad spinout". They also jump on the anti-DAS bandwagon saying "The steering is atrocious". That's getting pretty routine, but the spinout thing is a bit scary.
Wonder if it was steering-related or tire-related. The tires you can replace, the steering... well, not so much.

Here's the article : 2014 Infiniti Q50S Test – Review – Car and Driver
TEST NOTES: This car suffered a rare skidpad spinout. The steering is atrocious.

you guys all cars can spinout on skidpads, it's the driver

here's BMW:

Spin out on Skid Pad - 2011 BMW 335i

 

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Training class

It's true that you can spin most any car. But depending on various factors related to steering and suspension balance, some cars spin easier than others. But this video of BMWs is something different. It looks like a training class like the one I took at the Skip Barber Driving School. They wet the skidpad as you see here, and put bald tires on the back of the car so that it becomes more prone to spinning out so that you learn the techniques for recovering.
 

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It's true that you can spin most any car. But depending on various factors related to steering and suspension balance, some cars spin easier than others. But this video of BMWs is something different. It looks like a training class like the one I took at the Skip Barber Driving School. They wet the skidpad as you see here, and put bald tires on the back of the car so that it becomes more prone to spinning out so that you learn the techniques for recovering.
You are correct and this does not come anywhere close to proving CVIPGO's point. Yet another ding against the Q50, but does it matter at this point?
 
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It's true that you can spin most any car. But depending on various factors related to steering and suspension balance, some cars spin easier than others. But this video of BMWs is something different. It looks like a training class like the one I took at the Skip Barber Driving School. They wet the skidpad as you see here, and put bald tires on the back of the car so that it becomes more prone to spinning out so that you learn the techniques for recovering.
BMW has its own driving school by its factory in NC. That could be where this was shot. However, an amateur student on a track that has been purposely soaked by sprinklers spinning out a car is clearly a different story than a guy who tests cars for a living on a dry track having a rare spin out. Polar opposite situations.
 

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I don't understand why the DAS gets so much crap. I don't own a Q50 yet, but test drove one a couple of weeks ago (Q50s, essentially loaded with everything, including DAS). I actually liked the steering, and would not have known it was fly by wire had I not read up on it first. Will go for a more extended test drive later this week, but as of right now that's my next car!
 

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These guys need to drive the car on a daily basis for a week to write a good review, they're basing their comments on 15-30 minutes of driving the car after reading other reviews on it and just going along with the ride.

I never used to like the G37, I drove it for a couple minutes to get a feel for it and preferred my TL over it. After driving it for a week when my Q50 was in for maintenance work, I loved driving the G37 around (but I did miss my Q50). I never gave the car a chance after that initial test drive, that drive wasn't enough for me to be fair with judging it. Just my 2 cents about these reviews.
 
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I think that all that have given the car a chance and really enjoy it need to stop reading this lovely 15-30 drive time reviews. And if anyone that doesn't have the car yet want a real true review let me know and they should go drive the car and give it some road time.

And I must be missing something too when it comes to DAS, because if I didn't know that is what it was I am sure that I wouldn't even know that it was DAS. Or perhaps maybe I am just lazy, and have wanted a car to turn when I wanted it to and not have to fight the stirring wheel like I use to have to do with my friends' Chevy Chevettes and Ford Escorts back in the day. They were all upset, because I had a Toyota Corolla with power steering.:confused:
 
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I have to agree. I don't see the fuss about the steering. Our M37 doesn't have DAS and its steering wheel feels like how the Q50 feels in standard mode.

Infiniti dealerships are allowing 24 hour test drives for the Q50, if someone is serious about buying one, they should do a 24 test drive and really get a feel for the car instead of reading those reviews. Maybe some of these guys writing the reviews should do the 24 hour test drive themselves. I also think Infiniti should be marketing the fact that they're doing the 24 hour test drive to entice more customers to come in and actually see the car.
 
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The reason some people like or dislike the DAS is a personal preference for the feel of the steering. I doubt it is causing any spin outs. If you want to pin the blame on something I think the run flat tires would be a much more likely culprit. A few people who have replaced the tires on their Q50 have cited improvements.
 

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I have to agree. I don't see the fuss about the steering. Our M37 doesn't have DAS and its steering wheel feels like how the Q50 feels in standard mode.

Infiniti dealerships are allowing 24 hour test drives for the Q50, if someone is serious about buying one, they should do a 24 test drive and really get a feel for the car instead of reading those reviews. Maybe some of these guys writing the reviews should do the 24 hour test drive themselves. I also think Infiniti should be marketing the fact that they're doing the 24 hour test drive to entice more customers to come in and actually see the car.
I think a 24 hour test drive is a great idea. When my Infiniti lease is nearing its end I usually try to get a loaner car of the model I am thinking about so I can drive it for a day.
 
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