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Greetings everyone.

Im in the market for a Q50 3.0T AWD and Im trying to decide between a Q50 Sport and a Q50 Red Sport. Theres a couple thousand dollar difference between the two and I need a little bit of clarification.

Am I going to mod/tune it? Yes, eventually. I've had a few people tell me to save money (4K to 6K), get the Sport and mod it with the money saved. Ive seen the dynos between both modded and theres really no difference.

So... whats the difference between the Sport with the Sport Premium Plus Package VS a Red Sport? Beside the 2 water pumps, tune and turbine speed sensors, whats the REAL difference? Does the Sport Premium Plus package come with DAS? I REALLY dont think I want to NOT be physically connected with the road.

Thanks in advance!
 

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Depends on which model year you are looking at.
 

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Black headliner. Nuff said.
 
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I think even non-das is drive by wire?
 

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I think even non-das is drive by wire?
I don't think so. It has electrically assisted power steering thus allowing for changeable "feel".
 
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Black headliner. Nuff said.
I hate my black headliner...I feel like I am in a cave. Our Escape has a black interior with a light headliner and I prefer the look and ambiance much more. Until a grease monkey grabs the A-pillar with dirty hands.
 

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2016 thru 2018.
The reason this is important is that the 2016-2017 models are packaged a certain way. They changed packages and standard equipment quite a bit with 2018+.

We'll be able to assist with your questions. However, all of the nitty-gritty details are available at the following website by clicking the relevant model year's "specs" link. As you scroll through you will find the differences.

What I can tell you is that for the 2016-2017 years there are very few differences (and they are not meaningful when you are interested in modding/tuning).
 

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The reason this is important is that the 2016-2017 models are packaged a certain way. They changed packages and standard equipment quite a bit with 2018+.

We'll be able to assist with your questions. However, all of the nitty-gritty details are available at the following website by clicking the relevant model year's "specs" link. As you scroll through you will find the differences.

What I can tell you is that for the 2016-2017 years there are very few differences (and they are not meaningful when you are interested in modding/tuning).
What website am I looking for?
 

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For 2016 and 2017, DAS was a stand-alone option on the Sport and Red Sport.

For 2018, DAS was part of the ProACTIVE option package.
 

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For 2016 and 2017, DAS was a stand-alone option on the Sport and Red Sport.

For 2018, DAS was part of the ProACTIVE option package.
So without DAS, do these car have a real steering shaft connected to the rack or are ALL of them "electric"/drive by wire?
 

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So without DAS, do these car have a real steering shaft connected to the rack or are ALL of them "electric"/drive by wire?
Without DAS, you'll have electronic power steering (EPS). Your steering wheel is directly connected to the steering gear assembly but it also has a power steering torque sensor on that connection. The torque signal is sent to the power steering control module which in turn sends a motor control signal to the EPS motor.

The power steering control module also receives input from the ECM, ABS actuator and electric unit, steering angle sensor, and chassis control module. Combined with the torque sensor signal, the power steering control module takes all the information into account and generates an optimum assist torque signal to the EPS motor according to driving conditions.
 

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What website am I looking for?
Sorry about that. I neglected to include the link.
 

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Without DAS, you'll have electronic power steering (EPS). Your steering wheel is directly connected to the steering gear assembly but it also has a power steering torque sensor on that connection. The torque signal is sent to the power steering control module which in turn sends a motor control signal to the EPS motor.

The power steering control module also receives input from the ECM, ABS actuator and electric unit, steering angle sensor, and chassis control module. Combined with the torque sensor signal, the power steering control module takes all the information into account and generates an optimum assist torque signal to the EPS motor according to driving conditions.
Thanks. That's the answer I was looking for. Great to know.
 

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Btw: Driving DAS now for four years and 50k miles – only one hiccup directly after buying my Q50 (fixed with an Update), from there no problems at all. You need a little time to get familiar, but then...
 
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Btw: Driving DAS now for four years and 50k miles – only one hiccup directly after buying my Q50 (fixed with an Update), from there no problems at all. You need a little time to get familiar, but then...
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