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I'll say about Audi what I've said about Benz and Cadillac: A lot of people are fans of the austere and simple design language of Audi. I'm really not the biggest fan of their exteriors personally, but just the car alone, they carry a lot of perception.

Outside of that, I think other than the A5/S5 and the A7/S7, I find most of the current Audi exteriors to be a little too toned down and are due for a little bit of a refresh if they want to compete with the more aggressively styled luxury cars. That's just my own preference.
 

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The A4 rear actually looks like a more boring Q50 rear. And the same I say for the 3 series front applies to the A4 front. Stare at it for a minute or two.

Feels pretty boring doesnt it? The car LOOKS bored!

Now stare at the Q50 front.

Doesn't it look so excited and happy? haha.

Just a little observation I've made.
 

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It has but it is still a bit of a boring design. Not very aggressive. Just passive. Great if you are planning to retire soon haha.[/quote]

Hey, now wait a minute! :p I've been retired for almost ten years, and it looks boring to me, too. As the saying goes, when there's snow on the roof, there's a fire in the hearth. :D
 

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You have to admit out of the two the Audi A4 does look more boring and plain. From just a slight facelift of the front besides that there is nothing really new about the Audi design. the older models pretty much look the same except for the slightly altered shape of the headlights what else?
 

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The only thing I like on the Audi A4 is the side profile and I would just buy a car for that. The front end is just hideous, the older generations do look better I think Audi tried to hard to make it look different and new. This is where they screwed up.
 

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I agree with the above on Audi's design. While Audi may not have the coolest and most different and unique designs out, since they are quite simple, they do manage to stay up to date.

Thankfully Infiniti is coming out with some world class designs, pushing themselves higher up.
 

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Audi A4 = SNOOZEFEST.... AND THAT 2.OH T is slow .....
 

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Audi A4 = SNOOZEFEST.... AND THAT 2.OH T is slow .....
Well---to the normal commuter, the A4's 2.0 turbo has just as much power as any other normally aspirated V6 within a 240-270hp range. That's probably enough for most. It's just unfortunate that the A4 can easily reach $50k+ in price and even the leap up to the S4 is such a price premium. At least it's significantly quicker.

To make the most out of an A4, you've got to really love Audi's and not requiring all the bells and whistles.
 

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Well---to the normal commuter, the A4's 2.0 turbo has just as much power as any other normally aspirated V6 within a 240-270hp range. That's probably enough for most. It's just unfortunate that the A4 can easily reach $50k+ in price and even the leap up to the S4 is such a price premium. At least it's significantly quicker.

To make the most out of an A4, you've got to really love Audi's and not requiring all the bells and whistles.
So true unfortunately need to prioritize when buying an Audi that's why I prefer my Japanese luxury I can have my cake and eat it too! ;)
 

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Well---to the normal commuter, the A4's 2.0 turbo has just as much power as any other normally aspirated V6 within a 240-270hp range. That's probably enough for most. It's just unfortunate that the A4 can easily reach $50k+ in price and even the leap up to the S4 is such a price premium. At least it's significantly quicker.

To make the most out of an A4, you've got to really love Audi's and not requiring all the bells and whistles.
I don't know if the thing about price is true anymore. You can get an A4 with Navigation and Sport Suspension for like $42k-$45k. That is for the Premium Plus line of course.

Prestige line goes over $50k easy but so does Lexus and Infiniti's top of the line models.
 

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I don't know if the thing about price is true anymore. You can get an A4 with Navigation and Sport Suspension for like $42k-$45k. That is for the Premium Plus line of course.

Prestige line goes over $50k easy but so does Lexus and Infiniti's top of the line models.
That's what I was referring to when I mentioned "bells and whistles"
 

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If I bought an A4 I would have always wished I bought the S4. If I got the S4 I would have always wished I got the RS4.

And if I had an RS4 I'd prob want to try out the M3 or C63 AMG (especially if the new model is AWD 4Matc)
 

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If I bought an A4 I would have always wished I bought the S4. If I got the S4 I would have always wished I got the RS4.
Eh, I dunno.

From what I can tell, the jump up to an RS4/RS5 from an S4/S5 isn't quite as significant as the jump up to an C63 from a C350.

I guess I can only speak for myself but I couldn't possibly think I'd want more than what the S4/S5 could provide, especially after driving the BMW 335i counterpart.
 

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Eh, I dunno.

From what I can tell, the jump up to an RS4/RS5 from an S4/S5 isn't quite as significant as the jump up to an C63 from a C350.

I guess I can only speak for myself but I couldn't possibly think I'd want more than what the S4/S5 could provide, especially after driving the BMW 335i counterpart.
Thats so true. I think just last week or the week before Chris Harriss showed that within a minute you can turn a Audi S4 into an Audi RS4, all with an ECU tune or chip, forgot what exactly it is.

So it seems thats majority of that Audi did, a little ECU retune on the S4 and probably some other performance goodies, definitely not anything significant. It just goes to show what of waste of money an RS4 can be.
 
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