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This has been on my mind for awhile, but every time I see the new Mazda 6 I am immediately reminded of the Q50. From the front fascia to the side profile to the rear. Obviously if you have a keen eye you can easily differentiate both cars but the similarity is way too obvious. Anybody agree?

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I can easily differentiate the 2 because I own a Q50, LOL.
For people don't see the Q50 often, it can be mistaken a Mazda 6 as a Q50 from a distance. Q50 is better looking, of course.
If I am on a budget, Mazda 6 is definitely on top of my list. The only thing that I don't like about it is the small nav screen. If they ever put an 8" nav screen, it should be awesome considering it price/performance. IMO, car from now on should have at least an 8" screen, if not, it's outdated.

This has been on my mind for awhile, but every time I see the new Mazda 6 I am immediately reminded of the Q50. From the front fascia to the side profile to the rear. Obviously if you have a keen eye you can easily differentiate both cars but the similarity is way too obvious. Anybody agree?
 

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Mazda 6 is definitely sexy looking and can go toe to toe with the Q50 in terms of exterior looks IMO but I think that's where it ends! As far as power and the luxurious feel, I think the Q50 wins by a mile!
 
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There's no question Q50 wipes the floor with performance LOL. The comparison (looks) is more accurately displayed in this thread:

MT article - Q/G by the numbers.. - Page 5 - MyG37

And more hilariously compared in this thread:

2014 Sedan - Page 64 - MyG37

What's even more interesting is that if you look up Mazda's concept it's almost a rip off of the Infiniti Essence! And I believe the Essence concept was unveiled before Mazda's concept.
Yes it was...really would like to know the story behind the Mazda Kodo Concept. I always liked Mazda...but was quite disappointed with them when I saw there concept in a commercial last year.
 

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Did you ever look at the rear spoiler on the new Mazda 6? It looks and sits exactly like the one for our Q50's too. Its amazing how similar they look on the exterior.
 

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Mazda Shinari "Kodo" concept (2010).



Infiniti Essence Concept (2009)


I have to admit, the Kodo is a beautiful concept and I commend Mazda for transferring this design into their present cars. I think they did a better job than Infiniti did with the Essence. I really wished Infiniti would have made more of an effort to translate the Q50's back view in resemblance to the Essence. Oh well, I have high hopes that the Q60 will do just that.

 

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Its funny my brothers actually got the 14' mazda 6
 

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Yeah, all these similarities people keep knocking the Q for stem to everyone taking an inspiration or two from the Essence concept. Especially the grille and the whole claim of it looks like a Lexus. Some guy on myg37 claimed he saw his first Q50 and said he had to take a second look because it looked like a Lexus... I really wanna know what Lexus does the Q50 look like because I REALLY don't see it.
 

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Was really close to getting the Mazda6. Loved the outside. Excellent gas mileage. Also loved the interiors. Just couldn't get over the crappy Nav system. It was definitely lacking in power but I didn't mind coming from a crappy car, and the handling was as good as the Q in my unrefined opinion. The new 3 has a new Nav system that's much better. Hopefully the '15 model will have the Nav updated.

It only looks like the Q from the rear, with the lights off. Other angles not so much.
 

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This is for all you people that say the Q50 looks like #####, and Infiniti Copied ####
I don't really see much of a resemblence between the two except the flat front, but remember this . . . .

was an offspring of this . . .

Which was inspired by this.

And let's just clear some things up for people with a short term memory. This . . .

was not inspired by this . . .

it was inspired by this . . .

which was also the inspiration for this . . .

AND this . . .

and I know I'm in the minority but I still believe this . . .

propelled Infiniti in the design direction that ultimately became this . . .

and even though Lexus copyrighted this . . .

It was actually taken from this . . .

and while im brushing shoulders with our Japanese counterpart . . .
this would not have became this . . .

without a little inspiration from the success of this . . .

because before that it was only this . . .

and the only thing people actually remembered about that car was this:

My point?
This . . .

and this . . .

not to mention this:

and even this . . .

got its influence from this . . .

and this . . . .


has got to inspire a lot of this . . .
 

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Spot on IOOSR...

It is most disheartening when (some) proclaimed Infiniti loyalists make these ill-informed claims.

However, I've said it before, Infiniti deserves some of the blame as well for not aggressively marketing their cars (which are the cars I love and hope to only buy). Just like my favorite sport team, I will only root for INFINITI (maybe I'm a tad bit delusional).
 

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Odd discussion.

I don't see the similarity at all personally--and what I mean by this is that I don't see anything significant about the Mazda6 that looks similar enough to the Q50 to where a comparison makes any sort of sense or relevance.

I think the new Mazda6 looks more like the old Mazdas the same way the Q50 looks like the old Infiniti Gs.

With that said, I think the only similarity that these cars have on any level whatsoever is the rear bumper and trunk lines---which again, isn't something so unique that it makes them mutually exclusive.

You guys talk about inspired design or offsprings or rip-offs---you guys are just making connections and correlations that really aren't anything new at all. Go back to any point of time in the automotive industry and you'll find that the cars in those time periods always shared something. It wasn't about stealing designs or anything--it was about keeping up with the demand and the interests of the consumers and the following trends of the time. What works and doesn't work all stems from design queues from what's been done before and making very small tweaks along the way. It's just how it's always been.
 

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I find the "copy" claims to be kind of pointless. All car designers take queues from other cars. Which is why design trends change. No one single designer or car company is responsible for all modern cars.

But if you want to go back, Mazda was well ahead of it's time in the 90's. A 1993 RX7 still looks like a modern car by todays standards. How easily could you say that Infiniti copied Mazda in the 90's? Fact is, everyone gets inspiration from everyone else. They see what works, what consumers are buying - then put their own spin on it.
 

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They share some similar visual cues. Its just indicative of the entire industry, everyone is stealing from everyone else. the American Big 3 are even 'stealing' from their own history. Retro everything much??









Mercedes is stealing from themselves..



It's all getting pretty tedious...
 

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In actuality, no one is stealing from anyone. Its all by chance and trends leading designers. The Q50 and Mazda6 were in development at about the same time so there's no way either manufacturer could know what the other car looked like. And the same could be said about the concept cars.

The whole thing that pisses me off is that Infiniti is always, recently, labeled the copycat. Especially the Sonata comparison of the interior and the rear-end. Its a good looking car, but why in **** would Infiniti copy a Hyundai!!?!?! they stuck to their design langauge that Hyundai impeded on. And although they look 20x better now, but Hyundai/Kia has been known for taking inspiration from here nd there and the interior was DEF ripped from an Infiniti. The rear end I'll chalk up to chance.
 

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In actuality, no one is stealing from anyone. Its all by chance and trends leading designers. The Q50 and Mazda6 were in development at about the same time so there's no way either manufacturer could know what the other car looked like. And the same could be said about the concept cars.

The whole thing that pisses me off is that Infiniti is always, recently, labeled the copycat. Especially the Sonata comparison of the interior and the rear-end. Its a good looking car, but why in **** would Infiniti copy a Hyundai!!?!?! they stuck to their design langauge that Hyundai impeded on. And although they look 20x better now, but Hyundai/Kia has been known for taking inspiration from here nd there and the interior was DEF ripped from an Infiniti. The rear end I'll chalk up to chance.
I know what you're trying to say, but you're kinda contradicting your own statement(s).

To me, honestly--again, I don't think it's about stealing or ripping off or anything of that nature. It's not tedious at all. You can't look at it that way. We, as consumers, have emotional and individual responses to the way we look at cars. Those responses are based on what we think a car should look like and that's based on what we've already seen and what we're used to.

Designers know this and are well aware of that fact so they have a strong incentive to not take dramatic and unconventional choices when it comes to designs. It doesn't make sense to tear things down from scratch in any other situation, so when it comes to designing a car, you have to build upon what's been done before in order to create something bigger and better. It's just how things are done universally. Some companies have the luxury to take larger chances than others but they all follow the same basic principles. Since the automotive industry is incredibly deep, competitive, interconnected, and lucrative, this crossover in design language is nothing new.

I think there's also the volume and depth of the automotive market to take into account--after so many decades of engineering and trial and error, I think cars are and will eventually all start to look the same as we achieve a better sense of cost reduction, safety, visual aesthetics, aerodynamics, material stability and weight, and space utilization--That stylistic gap between cars is becoming a little bit smaller over time because the competition is becoming more efficient and sophisticated. Global standardization/centralization in automobiles is probably just a couple decades away (mainly all car companies being owned and manufactured by one company).

Eventually you'll notice that within most segments today, there's only so much you can do to a car and so many possible permutations in patterns and designs before you start seeing similarities in any and every car you see. It makes the whole thought of "ripping off" and "stealing" a misnomer at the very least.
 
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