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I'm shopping for the JB4 tune and just wanted to know before purchasing if the wireless smart phone kit is necessary/worth it. Is it like a tablet module you use for custom tuning? Just looking for some insight before the green light
 

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I'm shopping for the JB4 tune and just wanted to know before purchasing if the wireless smart phone kit is necessary/worth it. Is it like a tablet module you use for custom tuning? Just looking for some insight before the green light
I highly recommend the wireless kit. Yes, it's expensive ($140) but the convenience of being able to wirelessly make changes from your phone instead of connecting a laptop and cable is worth the cost IMHO. You will need to also get the JB4 Mobile app for your phone which is another $28 in order to take advantage of the wireless connection. Check out the app to see what all you can do with it and the wireless kit. The kit itself is a small BT dongle that you'll have to connect to the JB4 but it's simple to do.

I won't bother listing all the features of the app as you can read about them for yourself. I bought the dongle and app and they are the only way to go if you install a JB4 in your Q.
 

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I agree with A5 that if you get a JB4 (what you're asking about), splurge for the BT and App. If you think you would be happy with a JB1 (really named Stage 1), then by all means, keep it simple, get a JB1. Really the only reason to get a JB1 is if you are on a budget and you have a Red Sport and you're completely happy with keeping the boost at 3PSI over stock. But if you are Silver Sport and/or are looking to start changing and customizing maps, step up the JB4 with BT. Don't mess with the data cable. You can start with a JB1 and go JB4 later if you'd like.
 

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I strongly recommend getting it, you’ll be able to log your runs and see how your car reacts to the maps you choose. Everyone on here prefers map 6 due to being able to pick your own parameters and you’re able to taper your boost after certain RPM ranges. Ask Avedis53 and he can explain why that is wise and how it will benefit your turbos in the long run. Either way, that extra money spent is WELL worth it
 

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Like everyone else said, its well worth the additional money. Not only can you update the device with just your phone over bluetooth but you get real time data as well as real time data logging. Data logging will ensure that your car is not getting overworked or lean while under WOT.
 

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Well put! i appreciate the input from everyone and also am poised to ask the question though will this also work on a premium i see the website says Q50 RS and SS will this harm a premium if installed or be less beneficial?

And on the topic of purchasing Fuel wires, is this also for swapping over to E85 ? or for adjusting fuel air ratio as it mentions
 

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I highly recommend the wireless kit. Yes, it's expensive ($140) but the convenience of being able to wirelessly make changes from your phone instead of connecting a laptop and cable is worth the cost IMHO. You will need to also get the JB4 Mobile app for your phone which is another $28 in order to take advantage of the wireless connection. Check out the app to see what all you can do with it and the wireless kit. The kit itself is a small BT dongle that you'll have to connect to the JB4 but it's simple to do.

I won't bother listing all the features of the app as you can read about them for yourself. I bought the dongle and app and they are the only way to go if you install a JB4 in your Q.
Did you also get the fuel wires? and can this be used on a premium as well?
 

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Well put! i appreciate the input from everyone and also am poised to ask the question though will this also work on a premium i see the website says Q50 RS and SS will this harm a premium if installed or be less beneficial?

And on the topic of purchasing Fuel wires, is this also for swapping over to E85 ? or for adjusting fuel air ratio as it mentions
same engine so no it wont hurt it. Fuel wires are most beneficial when running ethanol blends up to 30%. A few people have mentioned they are useful for 93 pump gas. Basically fuel wires trick the ecu to provide less fuel so you run a leaner afr, the 3.0's run pretty rich (which is good and safe) but you do loose some HP for running too rich.
 

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Well put! i appreciate the input from everyone and also am poised to ask the question though will this also work on a premium i see the website says Q50 RS and SS will this harm a premium if installed or be less beneficial?

And on the topic of purchasing Fuel wires, is this also for swapping over to E85 ? or for adjusting fuel air ratio as it mentions
Your Premium has the low-output VR30 that the SS does and the JB4 will work just the same on it.

To run E85, you'll need to change your fuel pumps to higher output after-market pumps and perhaps make some other mods (CBE, downpipes, etc.) in order to maximize the power output. If you're thinking of going that route, you really need to go with a Ecutek tune instead of the JB4 to fully take advantage of E85, IMHO.
 

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Ask MWH on YouTube about going with E85 mix. He's now going back to pump gas. He has a new engine, believe it or not, under warentee.

I am sticking to pump gas. I have not ruled out the AMS RS600/RS500 kit upgrades, at some point. Still pump gas. Many less variables to manage.
 

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Personally, I wouldn't mess with ETOH because the VR30 simply isn't designed to be a flex-fuel vehicle. Besides, there's no E85 to burn or blend with around here anyway.
 

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Your Premium has the low-output VR30 that the SS does and the JB4 will work just the same on it.

To run E85, you'll need to change your fuel pumps to higher output after-market pumps and perhaps make some other mods (CBE, downpipes, etc.) in order to maximize the power output. If you're thinking of going that route, you really need to go with a Ecutek tune instead of the JB4 to fully take advantage of E85, IMHO.
I only plan on running 93 for now with a 10% ethanol mix its whats most common around me and easier to buy in regards to better fuel. That being said i should be fine with out the Fuel wires JB4 offers or still should get them?
 

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I use 100 unleaded, mixed to 94-95 on special occasions.

A good app: "Octaine Mix Calculator". The one with 3 yellow squares on it.
 

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For $30 & 30min to install - no brainer IMO.
I categorically concur. Even if you don't go the ETOH route, being able to fine tune your AFR at higher rpms can generate more power since the car does run rich.
 

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It looks like with all the JB4 extras you can really dial in your car. As long as you know what your doing. Otherwise you could really hurt your car. Excellent tool.
 

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It looks like with all the JB4 extras you can really dial in your car. As long as you know what your doing. Otherwise you could really hurt your car. Excellent tool.
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wait what? you buy unleaded 100 and then dilute it 94-95?
I buy 93, then add 100 to get 94-95. I use the app to figure out what I need to add.
the highest grade here is 94, and no E85, why they sell flex- fuel cars I don't understand, when I had the Ford focus, flex- fuel I ask Ford why they sold them here, when there are only two stations one by the border and one in Ottawa.
 
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