[Skyline G35]

So I went back to my dealership just to get a feel about purchasing the vehicle. Just for fun I had them use my car for a trade in, they appraised the vehicle 2K LESS than it's online value ...per KBB....really.

In addition, they were marking the vehicle up 3K, they called it an "addendum"...really . But since I am an current Infiniti owner and there would be a loyalty allowance of 1K towards financing (2.25%)...really , that's not going towards the MSRP.

All said in done, they would not hit me with the 3K markup(addendum) and really the 1K would not apply to me since I can finance the vehicle for 1.74%, so I an left with sticker and my own financing. And I could try to sell it to Carmax or private party. Now I know I would get more in Private party, and I may try that.

Also, the reason there not selling the cars until August 5, is due to 1) No leasing terms or rates have been dictated from corporate ( as discussed in this forum) 2) Other dealerships..midwest have not received their shipments. It sounds like from what the salesperson was saying ALL franchises must have some inventory so they could have a fair shake at selling the Q50. West Coast and East Coast appear to have their allotment.

Dealerships are not trading vehicles with other dealerships, what they get they will sell...no swappin


LET THE GAMES BEGIN

 

[Infiniti Chick]

No swapping? Is that across all dealerships or just the one you spoke with? I have been told more than once by the dealer I am working with that they will swap one of theirs for the one I FINALLY decide to buy.

Interesting information...not great news unfortunately but I'd rather be well prepared than surprised!! Oh and check CarMax. They offered me $24K for my 2010 G37, which is basically what I will owe at lease end.

 

[Skyline G35]

Infiniti Chick, salesperson was not clear on swapping he made it sound like, at least heer in Los Angeles dealerships will not swap vehicles around.

If your dealership has arranged to swap from another consider yourself lucky.

Be aware of there "addendum" charge what a bunch of bull, they mark it up in fantasy land ans they take it away just as fast, why even mentioning it, trying to make me feel good your not going to screw me another 3K???
Goodluck

 

[Infiniti Chick]

Infiniti Chick, salesperson was not clear on swapping he made it sound like, at least heer in Los Angeles dealerships will not swap vehicles around.

If your dealership has arranged to swap from another consider yourself lucky.

Be aware of there "addendum" charge what a bunch of bull, they mark it up in fantasy land ans they take it away just as fast, why even mentioning it, trying to make me feel good your not going to screw me another 3K???
Goodluck

That is EXACTLY what they were doing with that addendum cost. My local dealer was doing the same sort of shifty moves when I was talking to them about another car a few months ago. I called them on it and walked away from their "great and best" offer! Funny how they called for weeks after that (after their month end deals were over) to give another and even better offer the general manager approved. Right!! I didn't even bother to call them back to hear that offer....lie to me and I'm not trusting you to do me right!

 

[GtoQ]

Infiniti Chick, salesperson was not clear on swapping he made it sound like, at least heer in Los Angeles dealerships will not swap vehicles around.

If your dealership has arranged to swap from another consider yourself lucky.

Be aware of there "addendum" charge what a bunch of bull, they mark it up in fantasy land ans they take it away just as fast, why even mentioning it, trying to make me feel good your not going to screw me another 3K???
Goodluck

The add the addendum with a "market adjustment because some poor schmuck off the street will say ... Ok yeah that sounds good and the just add 3k to their bottom line .... Glad you know better...

 

[jkay]

Well, I've been holding off on mentioning this but I'll tell you that there will be dealers willing to work off of MSRP on these cars early on. I'm not saying you should expect invoice but with a roughly 9% markup being reported (from invoice to MSRP) I have already had 2 agree to meet me more than in the middle of those 2 numbers +/-

I'm trying to keep it on the DL for a while until things get sorted out but I hate to see dealers trying to rake people over the coals like this - adding money to MSRP is criminal and I hope no one pays that!!! Giving them MSRP is bad enough!

I'm willing to pay more than invoice minus any incentives right now because my lease is up and I don't mind paying the premium. I have never paid more than invoice minus incentives on any car I've leased - including my '06 M that I leased in '05 when it was first released.

If you have someone trying to charge more than MSRP I would walk and wait. Supply and demand could never justify that to me.

For those of you that are looking at MSRP - take a look at out of state dealers and work out transportation costs with the dealer. I posted something about a week ago with some details and a sample company link.

I know every market will be different so don't expect the same results but I heard of others getting these types of deals and went in armed with that info and had success.

YMMV. Good luck and report back.

P.S. Please don't ask me dealer names - I don't have the car yet and don't want to jinx anything if you are smart you can probably figure them out though.

 

[Mrkalu]

Off topic question but do you have to pay for that dealer transportation fee or delivery fee or can it be waived. It's like 900 something?

 

[jkay]

Off topic question but do you have to pay for that dealer transportation fee or delivery fee or can it be waived. It's like 900 something?

The MSRP includes the delivery charge of $905 (or whatever that is). That is the 'cost' of getting the car from the FACTORY to the DEALER. Last time I checked, it had to get there for them to sell it but I digress - it gets added to pretty much every car these days. (it's not really in the MSRP but it's added to the MSRP to get the total cost and there isn't much you can do about that).

If you have a dealer trade with another dealer, you shouldn't have to pay anything for additional transportation - they usually work that into their pricing on your car.

If you buy the car out of state then it would be reasonable to expect to pay some or all of that cost as that is a true cost for them to get the car from wherever you are buying it TO YOU. If you went to the dealership you would just pick it up and not have the additional transportation cost.

Some dealers will work their pricing to include delivery to someone out of state. Some will split it in some way and others may tell you a price and you can pay for the delivery and transportation (they can probably help with the logistics though).

Hope that helps!

 

[MaterSF]

I'm holding off until the dealers start dealing and the stealers stop stealing.


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[StonedCL]

I work for one of the largest dealers in the Northeast and we do not have any Q50's yet. From what I am hearing they are going to cali and then putting them on a train to go east.. Hopefully we will get a few of them soon because we are running out of cars to sell..

 

[jkay]

I work for one of the largest dealers in the Northeast and we do not have any Q50's yet. From what I am hearing they are going to cali and then putting them on a train to go east.. Hopefully we will get a few of them soon because we are running out of cars to sell..

Yep, I can imagine your frustration as well!

This is a great point for people to be aware of. Of course the dealers want to maximize their profit on the early sales but ultimately they need to move metal. The competition will be there for pricing so they can make up for less than stellar sales in June and July as many people wait for the Q50.

Hope you get them soon StonedCL! At least you should get some better margins to make up for the wait!

 

[afrosheen]

Running out of cars is a very good problem to have. They are practically giving away the G sedan right now. The lease deals are incredibly competitive.

 

[jkay]

Running out of cars is a very good problem to have. They are practically giving away the G sedan right now. The lease deals are incredibly competitive.

competitive? I'd say amazing!!! It's still surprising to see people on Edmunds forums asking about lease deals and getting whacked without all of the incentives and dealers pocketing those profits. I hate to see that but they really should do their research - at least a little. I guess the people posting on Edmunds' forums are doing their research so that's good.

If I didn't love the Q tech as much as I do, I would strongly consider getting another G at those prices. I just can't have the same car for 5 years - goes against my nature I'm jealous of the folks that buy and hold for 10 years and have no payments for much of that time.

 

[StonedCL]

The lease deals have been better in the past then they are now..
I got my sister a 18 month lease about a year ago and if I tell you what the payment was you would not belive it.. I do get VPP and loyalty though and My manager did go into holdback so they deals where better when they had the 18 month program..