MotorTrend - Q50S vs IS 350 F Sport
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If you view the video on YouTube, it has the MotorTrend logo. And the guy presenting in the video is a MotorTrend editor.
Also, I think you're confused about this video being posted a few days ago.
Isn't this the same video that was posted by Gobin Girl a few days ago? I don't think he works for MT but I might be totally wrong.
http://www.infinitiq50.org/forum/20...nfiniti-q50s-vs-2014-lexus-is350-f-sport.html
http://www.infinitiq50.org/forum/20...nfiniti-q50s-vs-2014-lexus-is350-f-sport.html
You're right, it's the same one. I looked before I posted, and about two or three times after you pointed it out. I only looked in the "video" forum, and I assumed you were talking about that cheezy MotorTrend short movie about the spy lady driving a q50 around for whatever reason.
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Very interesting review..
This confirms my suspicions about why people are so torn about these two cars. They're both good, but they're so very different---from a performance standpoint.
This confirms my suspicions about why people are so torn about these two cars. They're both good, but they're so very different---from a performance standpoint.
Frustration. That's what I feel with every review I've seen. For a reviewer to spend such a substantial amount of time decrying the drive by wire steering, yet then not drive the car with nine different steering configurations (moron) is lazy. It is the equivalent of saying "I'm not a fan of this pizza because someone ordered it with too many toppings, and I can't be bothered to taste all of them.
You then go and test a sports sedan and complain it is "too lively" on "real world" roads, never mind that you have the car in "personal mode", and that I hate having to use so many quotation marks to deplore your lack of understanding. If you put the car in personal mode and set it up moronically, yet we don't know how exactly you set it up, you can't apples to apples compare it with the sport mode on any other car. You are comparing apples to kumquats. I say this because a kumquat is a very misunderstood fruit. And is very misunderstood because people are too lazy to find out what a kumquat actually is. Or how it tastes. Or that the skin is edible, unlike an orange... which appears similar, but aside from being a citrus fruit is as different from a kumquat as an apple is to a Lexus.
And no mention that the sport model also comes in an AWD version...and the Lexus does not, you can get "Active Trace Control" (abominable quotations again) which will pull you around a tight corner like a tractor beam, and all the myriad technologies available on the Q.
Any thorough review is going to leave many more check marks in the Infiniti side of the board, however they can't go on and say the Lexus isn't as good as the Infiniti when they've just spent all of last year saying how much better it was than the BMW, C-Class, and the G25... that's right, they tested a G25 against those others and decried its lack of power. With a history of stacking the decks against Infiniti, it makes me wonder what backroom shennanigans are going on between RT, C&D, and Lexus. It's quite like winning every event at a track and field competition, and then the judges hand the award to that other contestant because... well, we gave them to him last year, didnt we?
You then go and test a sports sedan and complain it is "too lively" on "real world" roads, never mind that you have the car in "personal mode", and that I hate having to use so many quotation marks to deplore your lack of understanding. If you put the car in personal mode and set it up moronically, yet we don't know how exactly you set it up, you can't apples to apples compare it with the sport mode on any other car. You are comparing apples to kumquats. I say this because a kumquat is a very misunderstood fruit. And is very misunderstood because people are too lazy to find out what a kumquat actually is. Or how it tastes. Or that the skin is edible, unlike an orange... which appears similar, but aside from being a citrus fruit is as different from a kumquat as an apple is to a Lexus.
And no mention that the sport model also comes in an AWD version...and the Lexus does not, you can get "Active Trace Control" (abominable quotations again) which will pull you around a tight corner like a tractor beam, and all the myriad technologies available on the Q.
Any thorough review is going to leave many more check marks in the Infiniti side of the board, however they can't go on and say the Lexus isn't as good as the Infiniti when they've just spent all of last year saying how much better it was than the BMW, C-Class, and the G25... that's right, they tested a G25 against those others and decried its lack of power. With a history of stacking the decks against Infiniti, it makes me wonder what backroom shennanigans are going on between RT, C&D, and Lexus. It's quite like winning every event at a track and field competition, and then the judges hand the award to that other contestant because... well, we gave them to him last year, didnt we?
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I think it's quite clear-cut actually. Firstly to address your point about AWD : the Lexus IS has AWD for both F-Sport and non F-Sport versions.
Secondly, the Q50 might shade the IS in grip and acceleration but when it all comes together in real life like on a winding mountain road with a steep drop-off to one side, the reviewer felt more secure and in control when going fast in the IS compared to the Q50.
Quite simply, he felt like he could trust his life to the IS when handling and feedback counted the most rather than to the Q50.
I think that sort of endorsement counts/should count the most when considering how a sports sedan drives.
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I think if you're worried about driving around a winding mountain with a steep drop-off on one side and you're worried about being in control when going fast, most people would slow down. But hey, that's the nutty world I live in.
Let's face it - most people driving around that winding road wouldn't be going 9/10 doing it. Not to mention 5/7's of my "real world" is city traffic, not mountain terrains, to get to work and back. Maybe on a weekend, I could go find a mountain to be afraid of in a Q50. I was actually shocked by the fact he liked the IS interior over the Q. That center stack on the IS looks like it was designed by committee and the AC controls/section look like something drug out of the latest 1970's/1980's computer technology. I have to agree with him on the looks of the IS, as well, not my cup of tea. I do love the LFA gauges, though. The mouse control looks like a beating to use. Full disclosure : I haven't checked out the IS yet.
Ultimately, the IS is too boy racer for me and I'd pick the Q50 over the IS. Of course, if Infiniti doesn't get their act together on the software side, I'll be looking elsewhere, and may be forced to look at the IS. I'm running out of choices... lol.
Hopefully, anybody who watches any reviews has enough sense to still check out the cars in person. I use these reviews to get a sense of what things I should be watching for if I were to test drive. For example, this guy absolutely ripped the Lexus infotainment system, but I myself didn't think it was all that terrible to use in the short time I played with it.
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