[djsohott]

Hello all . First want to say great information on here. Currently in a 09 G37x lease that is due to go back . Here is my lease price I got. I am in NY:

Q50 Sport model AWD , Navi.
White w/ black interior
Gross Capitalized cost: $44,432.79
Cap cost reduction: $1500
Adj cap cost: $42,932.79
Residual: $28,713
39 months
$2600 down includes tax 1st, month,doc, acquisition fee
$399/mo

Good or bad???? Keep looking?

need to pull trigger this week.

Any input would be appreciated.

 

[andrew]

Haggle with them over the sale price.
You can get your monthly down.

 

[Daceptak0n]

Did you get any loyalty and/or VPP pricing involved?

 

[Bill H]

If you lease a 2014 Q50 the trigger you will pull will be the one on the gun in your mouth. Do some research on all of the issues with the InTouch system. It has too many issues to list but driving the car is dangerous! I filed a complaint with the BBB Auto Line last night. Ask the dealer to let you drive it for a couple of days and then decide.

 

[InfinitiNYC]

For every negative comment you see, you will get 10+ positives. Do not let the negatives suck you in in not getting the vehicle. Yes there are slight intouch issues but they are very minor. Those who did have driving issues, it was due to DAS, ever since the update there has been less and less people complaining.
The price looks pretty good but try and negotiate even lower. The $ down seems a bit off too (going by what I paid in NY)

 

[toinfiniti]

Just try to research and educate yourself. There is some issues with InTouch because it is first generation but I had expected. To me, as long it is not affecting the driving safety is the first priority but some people even make slowness in predictive lines to show in the screen as main issue to return the car. I believe, that is fixable easily by Infiniti but someone just needs to let them know.

Do yourself a favor, research more and see if you can live with it! If you want a perfect car, then I won't have answer.

For the price, I think you still can haggle more. It really depends on your negotiation skill. Also, it has been out for a while now and the volume starts to be higher. It might be easier to haggle more when it first time came out especially with lots of issues are already resolved (except ABBs ), I mean apps
I would suggest you to use truecar.com for the tool.

Update: Actually I just remember my BIGGEST issue with the car. It is WAY WAY WAY to refined compared to G! it is a bit boring >.... I like my car RAW like I like my steak!.... oh well.. time to graduate I guess!

 

[Sinecure]

If you lease a 2014 Q50 the trigger you will pull will be the one on the gun in your mouth. Do some research on all of the issues with the InTouch system. It has too many issues to list but driving the car is dangerous! I filed a complaint with the BBB Auto Line last night. Ask the dealer to let you drive it for a couple of days and then decide.

Seems like a perfect argument for why you should lease the car. At the end of the lease, if you aren't happy with it, just turn it in for a new one.

And I'm not sure how/why you're making the jump to the car being "dangerous". But I'm not at all interested in starting an online pissing match about that. Especially not in this thread since it is supposed to be helping someone who has decided they want the car and is just trying to get the best deal possible.

 

[toinfiniti]

I learned something since the first day I got into this forum:

It is impossible to please everyone but it is so darn easy to piss everyone off!

I would suggest you to be details why you think the car is dangerous rather than stating it dangerous. I am one of the owners.

 

[cvipgo]

BTW all cars are dangerous if the drivers don't play by the rules of the road...:laugh:

Q50 got 5 star overall safety rating by NHTSA, wonder why?
The 2014 Infiniti Q50 has been awarded a 5-Star overall safety rating by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) under the agency's New Car Assessment Program (NCAP).
[*] The ratings system is designed to provide consumers with information about crash protection and rollover safety. Five stars is the highest possible rating. - See more at: http://www.infinitiusa.com/sedan/q50/highlights/safety#sthash.V0sknyFI.dpuf

2014 Infiniti Q50 Sedan Safety | Infiniti USA

 

[Bill H]

I am simply suggesting that anyone considering the Q50 should drive it for a few days before signing. My issues- The short list of reasons the car is dangerous: 40 seconds before the system loads apps, predictive lines, auto and all other functions. IPhone 5- can receive messages but can't reply via the pre populated ones such as "I will be there shortly". I have tried 2 iPod Nano's and InTouch auto shuffles songs each time the ignition is turned on. I shouldn't have to de-select shuffle each time the car is turned on-off. Very slow response times on audio selections. The voice recognition is laughable. Try getting it to play a song from your iPod or phone. The drive mode always defaults back to standard each time the ignition is turned off. The hard drive map is useless if there has been any construction since the release of the software. The system shuts down while driving I would prefer to keep my eyes on the road instead trying to get the system to execute a simple command. As far as the 5 star rating, I hope I don't find out the hard way. Leasing...great but now I am in a 39 month Beta with Infiniti. Everyone considering the car should watch an YouTube video posted by Erik Hulse-Search Q50 InTouch Lockup.


If you really like the car-tell your associate that you want to drive in real world conditions before signing on the dotted line!

 

[misterba]

I am simply suggesting that anyone considering the Q50 should drive it for a few days before signing. My issues- The short list of reasons the car is dangerous: 40 seconds before the system loads apps, predictive lines, auto and all other functions. IPhone 5- can receive messages but can't reply via the pre populated ones such as "I will be there shortly". I have tried 2 iPod Nano's and InTouch auto shuffles songs each time the ignition is turned on. I shouldn't have to de-select shuffle each time the car is turned on-off. Very slow response times on audio selections. The voice recognition is laughable. Try getting it to play a song from your iPod or phone. The drive mode always defaults back to standard each time the ignition is turned off. The hard drive map is useless if there has been any construction since the release of the software. The system shuts down while driving I would prefer to keep my eyes on the road instead trying to get the system to execute a simple command. As far as the 5 star rating, I hope I don't find out the hard way. Leasing...great but now I am in a 39 month Beta with Infiniti. Everyone considering the car should watch an YouTube video posted by Erik Hulse-Search Q50 InTouch Lockup.


If you really like the car-tell your associate that you want to drive in real world conditions before signing on the dotted line!

Well, I'm the one of the people screaming about InTouch issues. Also I'm mad about Infiniti not beiing responsble enough to finish what they started and upgrade the software to the level it was sold to us. But to call the car dangerous is way overrated. I can't talk for any of the members but the car does very good except previously mentioned issues. BTW I took it for it' first race to Qualcom and the car did exceptionally well. Lots of power and i did put some stress on it. It handeled everything the way I was hoping. So IMO "dangerous"? Not at all. But I do agree with you to use it for longer time before buying, first, everyone has diffrent taste and second, we're talking about $45K price tag.

 

[Sinecure]

Now I get it. "Dangerous" is hyperbole - that makes much more sense.


The backup camera (the part the gov't now accurately considers a requisite safety feature) works - but the cool feature that shows you where the wheels are going based on how you have the steering wheel turned - doesn't work at first. (Of your complaints, this is the one I see that is closest to inviting "danger.")

It plays songs off my iPod in a way that's different from what I want. Not a safety issue.

The InTouch system on early models, or ones that haven't gotten the free software updgrade, locks up. Not a safety issue. You can reboot the system while driving, or stop and restart the car to temporarily resolve the issue. And any new car you buy now will have the updated software. Not a safety issue.

Apple uses a different implementation of SMS and Bluetooth protocols from everyone else. As a result, system functionality that would allow it to automate texting doesn't work the same as on Android. I've sold lots of cars to Apple employees - every single one shrugged their shoulders at this limitation. At least I don't work in Seattle - the thing barely works at all on Windows devices. Not a safety issue.

You get a chuckle when you try to get the voice recognition system - one of the most advanced I've seen in ANY car - to play your awesome music. I'm glad it is making you laugh. I can easily program in destinations, set radio stations, adjust the temperature in the car, get fuel prices, make phone calls, etc. And it works perfectly almost every time. Maybe because I RTFM'd. But either way - not a safety issue.

Navigation doesn't show recent construction. Sorry, but that's a limitation of any in-car hard drive based system. It is still a **** of a lot safer than trying to hold your phone for navigation off a tiny screen. And forget about using phone navi while you're on a call (at least with Verizon on an iPhone). May be close to a safety issue - but I'm not buying it. Not dangerous anyway.

You originally said that leasing this car now is akin to committing suicide. I argued that one of the real benefits of leasing ANY car is that you have the benefit of an "out". Not loving the car after 24 or 39 months? No problem - just turn in the keys.

I'm not saying the car is perfect. I point out its shortcomings whenever I show it to clients. But its benefits are amazing. I smile every time I drive my car. And none of the electronic features have come anywhere close to causing a dangerous situation for me. If anything, they've made my regular driving safer than ever.

Sorry to pick on the new guy, but when you come in making blanket statements that really miss the mark, you're asking for it.

 

[cvipgo]

Now I get it. "Dangerous" is hyperbole - that makes much more sense.

The backup camera (the part the gov't now accurately considers a requisite safety feature) works - but the cool feature that shows you where the wheels are going based on how you have the steering wheel turned - doesn't work at first. (Of your complaints, this is the one I see that is closest to inviting "danger.")
It plays songs off my iPod in a way that's different from what I want. Not a safety issue.
The InTouch system on early models, or ones that haven't gotten the free software updgrade, locks up. Not a safety issue. You can reboot the system while driving, or stop and restart the car to temporarily resolve the issue. And any new car you buy now will have the updated software. Not a safety issue.

Apple uses a different implementation of SMS and Bluetooth protocols from everyone else. As a result, system functionality that would allow it to automate texting doesn't work the same as on Android. I've sold lots of cars to Apple employees - every single one shrugged their shoulders at this limitation. At least I don't work in Seattle - the thing barely works at all on Windows devices. Not a safety issue.
You get a chuckle when you try to get the voice recognition system - one of the most advanced I've seen in ANY car - to play your awesome music. I'm glad it is making you laugh. I can easily program in destinations, set radio stations, adjust the temperature in the car, get fuel prices, make phone calls, etc. And it works perfectly almost every time. Maybe because I RTFM'd. But either way - not a safety issue.
Navigation doesn't show recent construction. Sorry, but that's a limitation of any in-car hard drive based system. It is still a **** of a lot safer than trying to hold your phone for navigation off a tiny screen. And forget about using phone navi while you're on a call (at least with Verizon on an iPhone). May be close to a safety issue - but I'm not buying it. Not dangerous anyway.
You originally said that leasing this car now is akin to committing suicide. I argued that one of the real benefits of leasing ANY car is that you have the benefit of an "out". Not loving the car after 24 or 39 months? No problem - just turn in the keys.
I'm not saying the car is perfect. I point out its shortcomings whenever I show it to clients. But its benefits are amazing. I smile every time I drive my car. And none of the electronic features have come anywhere close to causing a dangerous situation for me. If anything, they've made my regular driving safer than ever.
Sorry to pick on the new guy, but when you come in making blanket statements that really miss the mark, you're asking for it.

Normally I would say don't listen to salesmen but in this case Sinecure is right on, but you as a buyer needs to do your research and collect your own facts based on knowledge/experience of thousands of Q50 owners.

 

[djsohott]

I did not think when I posted my question about my lease deal it would would go down this road. I appreciate the conversations. I don't know if the analogy was useful but that is beside the point now.

So about the actual lease deal? Sound good or I can do better? Also does anyone have any pros or cons working with a leasing company vs dealership? I am in such a tough spot. Since I last posted on friday, I went to test drive a 2014 IS 350 F Sport AWD and must say was impressed. The lease deal was very comparable to infiniti's. I did not think I would be in this position and now I guess I need to make 2 decisions now. Which car and if the deal is a go.

 

[andrew]

I did not think when I posted my question about my lease deal it would would go down this road. I appreciate the conversations. I don't know if the analogy was useful but that is beside the point now.

So about the actual lease deal? Sound good or I can do better? Also does anyone have any pros or cons working with a leasing company vs dealership? I am in such a tough spot. Since I last posted on friday, I went to test drive a 2014 IS 350 F Sport AWD and must say was impressed. The lease deal was very comparable to infiniti's. I did not think I would be in this position and now I guess I need to make 2 decisions now. Which car and if the deal is a go.

Hey djsohott.. yes back on topic for you.
I think you can do a bit better.
Just work on the sale price on the lease and look at Multiple Security Deposits (MSD's) if you can do that.

 

[InfinitiNYC]

Hey djsohott.. yes back on topic for you.
I think you can do a bit better.
Just work on the sale price on the lease and look at Multiple Security Deposits (MSD's) if you can do that.

Unfortunately in NY you cannot do MSD.

 

[djsohott]

I may be leaning towards IS350 F Sport AWD.... stay tuned!

 

[Bill H]

Well after a 500 road trip I feel confident that calling the car dangerous is not a hyperbole. When a vehicle constantly distracts you from what it is designed to do (intuitively get you from origin to destination safely) the Q50 fails. I asked the passenger who is very tech savvy to negotiate the InTouch while I drove the reply was WTF? I don't take anything on this forum personally. I am only stating what everyone already knows and it is that Infiniti put out a beta test product. Having leased 3 G's previously and being delighted I have no agenda and certainly no bias towards Lexus.

 

[djsohott]

Update.... Priced out lease for IS 350 F Sport AWD with Navi and BSM

$2900 down includes taxes , title, 1st month, security
397/mo

MSRP - 48,717
Invoice - 44,000

Really am thinking this one over.....

 

[machmike]

Bill,

He is just getting the NAVI. Please read the OP post carefully before responding. You don't want to get new buyers all turned inside out for no reason.

Straight NAVI doesn't have all the DAS issues and sensor issues etc. So it is not dangerous at all (unless he swallows his tongue waiting for the in-touch to load).

DJ,

I seriously considered the IS350. I drove it at least 5x. I was on the way to buy the IS350 F-sport cash outright and stopped by the Infiniti dealer OTW for a second look at the Q50s. I Bought the Q50s I thank myself every day.

If you GO IS350 DO NOT get AWD, you lose a TON of the technology they built into the F sport 350 such as: variable suspension, transmission etc. Just don't do it (i'm very serious) unless you go Rear wheel drive. The car gets atrocious MPG. You will be lucky to get out of the teens on the highway. It feels a bit cramped for my liking. The Lexus AWD is a mess in terms of power distribution compared to the Q50s. The stock stereo (not the ML) is not very good and has comb filtering effect (phasing). Other than that the car is really quite nice. I like the seats better in the IS.

For features and power the Q50 was a hands down thrashing of the F Sport on the AWD models.

Mike