This OK to throw in the tank stock?
Time to read. Ill be backWhile octane boosters with MMT are effective - they do have a checkered reputation.
Impact Assessment of Metal-Based Octane Boosters: A Literature Review
where did you buy it from? You should still be able to return it if you tell them why you cant use it becuase it will foul the spark plugs and it contains MMT which can foul the o2 sensors and you dont wanna run the risk of damaging your car.Well....f%%k me. $23 flushed.
I guess ill use it to start my fire pit a few times and then put the bottle on the shelf in the man cave. 🤷♂️
Thanks guys.
Toluene is not to be trifled with. If you're planning on using it, don't allow skin contact and mix it in a well-ventilated area.How much of this magic juice do you use with a full tank - just asking for scientific purposes (😉)
It looks like a can at ACE Hardware is clocking in at @ $24 /gal.
Klean Strip Toluene Solvent 1 gal - Ace Hardware
Boostane probably contains 5-10% MMT according to its MSDS. Boostane claims they use proprietary carriers so the MMT won't settle out of solution but I fail to see how that prevents the combustion by-products of MMT (manganese oxides, mainly Mn3O4) from forming and coating sensors, plugs, and cats. I personally wouldn't use an octane booster that contains MMT. Infiniti specifically states not to use MMT in their vehicles.If anyone is familiar with IAM (ignition advance multiplier) in the subie world.
I had a custom tune done and my revision 7 was same as 6 only a little more ignition advance. Rev 6 IAM was pretty happy at 1, Rev 7 he tried to push timing further but my octane limits where tapped so IAM dropped and stayed below 0.7x sometimes as low as 0.5x. I decided to test out boostane. I used only 0.75oz per 1 gallon. IAM never dropped from 1 again. Retested without Boostane later to verify if it was a fluke or bad gas(which I have yet to experience) same results consistently repeated.
typically on a stock car/tune 93octane will be IAM 0.95-1, 92octane 0.85-.9, and 91 octane about 0.7-0.8, so roughly 1 octane per 0.1-0.15 IAM is pretty common.
based on that I would conclude 0.75oz per 1 gallon of gas resulted in at least a 2 octane increase. At least 2+ octane equivalent worth of added timing.
Boostane is supposedly formulated much better to mix with the gas and keep it in suspension preventing separation and settling of the additives like what happens with other products (according to them). I think this combined with how little needs to be mixed the effects on plugs and cats should be minimized.
Lot of people throughout that thread ran boostane with no issues, the one who claimed issues where running a very large amount.here's a thread with probably what everyone wants to see, engine internals after using MMT. even though this is a modern hemi head and top end, the results will be the same as all engines work the same way.
of particular note is the build up on the exhaust valves. i think were all aware of build up on plugs and sensors, most ppl dont care that much because theyre relatively easy to swap. the cats can be a concern but i dunno if ive ever seen anyone post a pic of a plugged cat in correlation with octane boosters. but now, what i have just seen is direct proof of build up on exhaust valves and seats, detrimental enough that valve sealing was likely compromised.
starts at post 238. if page 12 doesnt load, look on page 12 of that thread.
Boostane, think twice!
I ran 3 cans of professional level Boostane, to try out my Hundred octane tune. It held the hundred octane tune perfectly, however, it left a very aggressive residue. I had the plugs pulled and they were not in good shape, and the O2 sensors were a mess, as well.www.hellcat.org
i just want to add that octane boosters cost equal to or more than toluene. currently, toluene is 4x less expensive than boostane by weight, contains zero magnesium or anything else, and is a component of gasoline already. if you are willing to use an octane booster, then you should be willing to use toluene instead.
also, i have personal experience with it and also xylene. plugs were clean and the car ran fine. best side effect was that the exhaust smelled cool too, lol.
Safer?We can debate this until the cows come home but the bottom line is if there is a safer, less costly octane booster like toluene available, why use a metal-based one that can foul engine components?
Do you not think the build up on the valves would be much more of an issue for Port injection (his) vs direct injection (OP’s/VR30s)in the link i provided, the guy used 32oz for 15 gallons of gas, that equates to ~2oz/gal. if he was using 93, if would get him to around 102-3 octane. that mixture is WELL within the recommended guidelines. hell, even if it were mixed with e85 (as i suspect from the past directly after), the mixture used shouldnt matter. to get to 116 octane, boostane recommends 32oz per gallon of gas. thats 16x the amount that the guy in the post used. i can only imagine what an engine would look like using that. the build up on the face of the valves and seats is undeniable (literally, theres pictures) in his engine. the valves werent even fully sealing any longer.
it seems neither of us is going to budge on this. im not denying its effectiveness, im not even saying the deposits on the plugs or o2 sensor even bother me. i do think there are issues with cats in the long term and having seen the valves on that engine only further solidifies to me that burning magnesium as an octane booster isnt a good idea.