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Hello to all Q50 owners,

Anyone out there had problems with the stock brakes vibrating when braking at higher speeds above 80mph? I have a 2020 Q50 Sport with only 15k miles on it. I'm guessing it's time for an upgrade.
 

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Hello to all Q50 owners,

Anyone out there had problems with the stock brakes vibrating when braking at higher speeds above 80mph? I have a 2020 Q50 Sport with only 15k miles on it. I'm guessing it's time for an upgrade.
You're on warranty. Take it in for inspection.
 

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Just keep in mind that brakes are considered wearable items though, should it end up being say the rotor. As in, not covered. Still probably not a bad idea to take it in for them to look at it, in case it's something else that is defective that would be covered. Also even if it is the non-covered items least you'll know from their diagnosis hopefully.
 

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It could be something as simple as pad material buildup on the rotor, especially if the pads weren't bedded in when new.
 

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In my experience, you can get this sort of thing addressed under warranty during the first year or so, but after that the dealer will want to charge to machine the rotors.

Sometimes properly torquing the lugnuts and/or doing a brake break-in procedure will sort out pad material built up on the rotors. If not, I would replace rotors before I would machine them and end up with thinner rotors more prone to the same issue.
 

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It could be something as simple as pad material buildup on the rotor, especially if the pads weren't bedded in when new.
Fair warning: This post contains a lot of detailed information on brakes and I know some of my fellow nerds like @xBlitzkriegx, @SkylineDreamz and @Avedis53 will most likely enjoy it.

Dollars to donuts it's this. I had that done on my G37S (dealer machine rotors) due to pad material build up on the sport rotors. It kept happening and I live in Texas where the summertime road surfaces are as hot as 160°F on asphalt and breaking over 80mph just throws that much more kinetic energy into them and they can only dissipate heat so fast when the ambient road surfaces are that hot and you can get pad material buildup on the rotor. It builds up unevenly on the rotor surface and gives the feeling of brake judder or steering wheel shake.

I got fed up with continuing to have to do that and bought a bad ass two-piece rotor kit from Racing Brake. The iron they use for the rotors is extremely hard. I ran track pads on the G37 and while they were noise in drive-throughs, I never had brake pad material building up on the rotors. They are the BEST brakes I've ever had on a car. I did some tests braking from 80mph and they barely blinked and it was like they said, "Is that all you've got dude?" Once the brakes on my Q wear out, I'll be installing the Racing Brake rotors I bought for my G37S.

Heat control is affected by mass when it comes to rotors. High mass rotors resist heat up but cycle poorly (i.e., they resist getting hot for a time but cool and dissipate heat much more slowly) and lower mass rotors will heat more quickly and cool faster. If the rotor isn't bigger, you have the same "work" being done and when you have the same work, spread over the same swept area and mass, you have the same heat. Bigger brakes with a good pad require less time to do the same work, and it's spread over a larger area, and therefore create less heat density in the rotor. With a lower mass rotor, the heat will dissipate faster and when you have a very hard and tough iron rotor and a tougher pad, they withstand the heat that does build up MUCH better and you'll get zero deposition of pad material on the rotor. If you get any, the pad will scrap it off.

If you really want to nerd out on gray cast iron brake rotor metallurgy, check out these two links:



They were overkill sure, but they saved my ass on more than one occasion with moron DFW drivers doing stupid stuff. I paid a bit over $2k for the whole kit, front and rear rotors, pads and stainless steel brake lines. The Racing Brake kit is about $400 more than Z1's kit and it comes with braided stainless steel lines. I would be curious as to what grade of iron that Z1's rotors are constructed with. They don't mention it on their site. I get nothing from recommending RacingBrake. They were indestructible. I even did a few 100-0 braking sessions and could not get them to fade in summer heat. They are badass and require very little brake pedal input because the coefficient of friction is so high. I would even go as far to say that when you lean into the brake pedal even just a little bit, the braking torque force is violent, but violent in a way that instills extreme confidence in any situation. They will stop on a dime and give you .09 cents change. But most times, they only require the weight of your foot, even in crazy DFW traffic.

I initially ran their ET500 street pads but became dissatisfied with them because they ended up having the same issues with pad material build up. After those wore out, I switched to their XT-970 / XT-960 pads front / rear and I was exceptionally happy with them. I ran them in temperatures as cold as 8°F with zero issues. They are just f'ing badass and worth the money if you are an enthusiast driver.

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It could be something as simple as pad material buildup on the rotor, especially if the pads weren't bedded in when new.
Like this? On a friends Honda S2000.

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Hello to all Q50 owners,

Anyone out there had problems with the stock brakes vibrating when braking at higher speeds above 80mph? I have a 2020 Q50 Sport with only 15k miles on it. I'm guessing it's time for an upgrade.
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Hello to all Q50 owners,

Anyone out there had problems with the stock brakes vibrating when braking at higher speeds above 80mph? I have a 2020 Q50 Sport with only 15k miles on it. I'm guessing it's time for an upgrade.
The problem is with the stock brake pads which leave a glaze like material on the rotors causing the vibrations. If you have the OEM sports brake with Big Akebono Calipers, then this would be your issue. The only way to fix this would be to wait her resurface the rotors or switch the brake pads out to some more aggressive ones like I did, which are the Nismo brake pads.

The Nismo pads are made of semi-metallic material which has a better bite when pressing the brake and cleans the rotor up as the pads are a little aggressive. I used these brake pads after swapping out my OEM ones for the same issue as your for the vibrations and I was able to get rid of the vibrations by only switching the brake pads out and using the same rotors
 

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The problem is with the stock brake pads which leave a glaze like material on the rotors causing the vibrations. If you have the OEM sports brake with Big Akebono Calipers, then this would be your issue. The only way to fix this would be to wait her resurface the rotors or switch the brake pads out to some more aggressive ones like I did, which are the Nismo brake pads.

The Nismo pads are made of semi-metallic material which has a better bite when pressing the brake and cleans the rotor up as the pads are a little aggressive. I used these brake pads after swapping out my OEM ones for the same issue as your for the vibrations and I was able to get rid of the vibrations by only switching the brake pads out and using the same rotors
Thanks for the information I really appreciate it!! I will try switching the pads first and go from there. I will keep you posted, thank you again.
 

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Fair warning: This post contains a lot of detailed information on brakes and I know some of my fellow nerds like @xBlitzkriegx, @SkylineDreamz and @Avedis53 will most likely enjoy it.

(TONS of great info removed for brevity...)
I've always been deterred from buying racing brakes because: 1) noisy; and 2) I've always been told that they suck when they're cold. Any thoughts on the latter? If my brakes are garbage until they get warm enough, that's a problem for me.
 

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I've always been deterred from buying racing brakes because: 1) noisy; and 2) I've always been told that they suck when they're cold. Any thoughts on the latter? If my brakes are garbage until they get warm enough, that's a problem for me.
The Nismo brakes solve all these issues and have the best bite when cold for a street/track brake pad. Also there is absolutely no noise at all from these pads.
 

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You are to brakes as I am to throttle controller....Dare say even MORE. Good job.
 
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Here is what the Nismo Brake pads look like. The rear pads are made in Japan and the front pads are made in Italy. I used to buy these pads from Nissan parts deal for $88 dollars rear and the fronts were like $100. Now they don’t sell them anymore and the price from the dealership and concept Z performance is $249 dollars for each. I was lucky to get them for cheaper from Amazon and eBay and I just stocked up on them.

The problem now is that the front pads have been discontinued by Nissan and only the rear are available now. I have tried the Infiniti Motorsports performance pads which were the streets and they were horrible with no initial bite at all before getting these. It was one of the worst pads I had tried and luckily I was able to get a refund. Then I tried the track pads which had a great bite but were very noisy and ate the hell out of the rotor. Also they wore out very fast like with in months and had the worst dust ever. Another thing was they also wore out unevenly which I never seen that before and it was probably due to the pads producing so much dust and some of the material actually prematurely breaking off and get stuck with In the caliper.

Now I don’t get why these Nismo pads for the front have been discontinued but it’s probably due to production costs and the high price tag.
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Here is the best deal you can find on the Nismo Front brake pads online. Also even though there $199 which is alot, you can submit a best offer to the seller. He did accept $175 when I bought them but please feel to try a lower price.

 

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Here is what the Nismo Brake pads look like. The rear pads are made in Japan and the front pads are made in Italy. I used to buy these pads from Nissan parts deal for $88 dollars rear and the fronts were like $100. Now they don’t sell them anymore and the price from the dealership and concept Z performance is $249 dollars for each. I was lucky to get them for cheaper from Amazon and eBay and I just stocked up on them.

The problem now is that the front pads have been discontinued by Nissan and only the rear are available now. I have tried the Infiniti Motorsports performance pads which were the streets and they were horrible with no initial bite at all before getting these. It was one of the worst pads I had tried and luckily I was able to get a refund. Then I tried the track pads which had a great bite but were very noisy and ate the hell out of the rotor. Also they wore out very fast like with in months and had the worst dust ever. Another thing was they also wore out unevenly which I never seen that before and it was probably due to the pads producing so much dust and some of the material actually prematurely breaking off and get stuck with In the caliper.

Now I don’t get why these Nismo pads for the front have been discontinued but it’s probably due to production costs and the high price tag. View attachment 115203
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Could you post a photo of the bottom of the box? I'd also like a photo of what they'd look like on a beach in Hawaii.
 

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I know I take brakes for granted,,your post has increased my awareness on one of most critical parts of the car. Ty.
 

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Thanks for the information I really appreciate it!! I will try switching the pads first and go from there. I will keep you posted, thank you again.
I guess you did not see the picture I posted. New pads alone won't fix your problem. You need new rotors also. Or have them lightly resurfaced to remove the deposits.
 
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