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Question: Long term / high mileage reliability of the VR30

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Upgrade the heat exchanger if you like the go pedal, like @Dci said. And get an oil catch can to keep the valves clean. Stay up on maintenance and you’ll likely be good. I have a 2018 with 55,000 miles and a JB4. Haven’t done the HE or CC yet, still on first turbos, and have zero problems. Let the oil warm up before you have fun, and let the oil cool down after you have fun.
 
Thanks for your reply and insight. A properly installed catch can makes a lot sense with any direct injected engine... if you want to keep it long term and minimize the cost of intake valve cleaning.

I don't have a VR30 yet... I'm researching my next car and since I keep my cars 20+ years / 250,000+ miles , I want to make a reliable decision. Based on personal past experience, the VQ has been excellent and I really would like to update to the VR30.
Honestly, I see no reason why this engine wouldn’t last that long, so long as it’s properly cared for. Consider the VG30DETT in the 300ZX, or the RB25DETT, or the SR20. All turbo charged Nissan engines, all over 20 years old, and all still highly desirable. I don’t see why the VR30 won’t do the same, especially since engine tech has improved since those engines were first cast.
 
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Does it run on trash, like Doc Brown’s deLorean?
 
Speaking of DeLorean...here's the teaser for their supposedly upcoming concept EV to be revealed on August 18th of this year. Will it ever be produced? I doubt it.

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Looks like a Z rip off. But I like it. At least, what I can see of it.
When new, the VG30DETT was not a reliable engine. I suspect is the issues are long figured out now. I don't know anything about the RB25DETT or SR20DET as they were not used in North America.

I just read a post about VR30 that needed a new water pump at 66K. My 96 Maxima had 250,000 miles on the original water pump when I sold it.

I understand engines are built to a different level today... that's why I am trying to choose carefully.
Fair enough and good points. To further it, the early RB, SR, and VR all had problems as well. All newly engineered engines do. But the VR has been on market for 6 years now, and like all my other examples, have had the bugs worked out for the most part. Sure there’s a few bad water pumps or turbos or whatever random part out there. Made on a Friday afternoon. But they’re rare at this point. And again, a bad part here and there will crop up on any vehicle. I had a 2016 wrangler go through two radiators and an ac compressor with only 45,000 miles on the clock. I also have a Silverado with 75,000 miles and absolutely no issues at all. It’s all luck of the draw really. Any modern vehicle (that doesn’t come from Germany) should be a safe bet for reliability. Honda and Toyota forced everyone else to step up their reliability game back in the 80s and 90s.
In short, if you take care of your vehicle, your vehicle will take care of you regardless of the make, model, or engine. So get a vehicle that fits your needs and just as importantly, stirs up your emotions. If the Q50 with a VR30 does that for you, then by all means, go for it!
 
I want to thank everyone for their input and thoughts on this topic.
I do appreciate it!
You’re welcome and good luck with your decision! We all wish you the best
 
Also, if you want to steer clear of turbos, but do want reliability and some fun; the new GR86/BRZ is getting great reviews, and both Toyota and Subaru are know for being mechanically rock solid. Plus, it’s available with a stick.
 
And they only need a 150 nitrous shot to be relevant. Apparently the turbo FA24 was actually considered but the official reason for not using it was "center of gravity" issues. I believe it was more about keeping the car away from the performance level of the WRX. Who would buy a 3500lb sporty car with 271hp/258tq when they could buy a 2900lb sports car with 271hp/258tq. Instead, it gets a buzzy n/a pancake with 230hp/180tq.

You end up with a "sports car" that's slower than a V6 Camry, slower around a figure 8 than an outdated RWD (or AWD) Q50, and can't even brake faster than Hyundai Sonata.

Many reviews of this car list specs and then IMMEDIATELY say "it isn't about the numbers". Yeah, that's because it doesn't have an numbers worth mentioning. Minivans aren't about the numbers either.
So, so true! But for some people, the feeling of speed is more satisfying than actual speed. And as we know, smaller, rowdy sounding cars feel faster than larger smoother cars. For example, i drove a buddy’s 93 RX7. It was completely stock and I didn’t go above 60 because it ‘felt’ way faster than it was. My Q however, I routinely catch myself doing 100, and thinking I’m only doing about 70.