[Anthony_Jackson787]

After my thorough research, here is my conclusion:

Since these 2 tires are the best of their class, and have very little differences in performance. It comes down to personal preferences boiled down to performance vs comfort. I have no input for snow performance since I live in California.

Continental ExtremeContact DWS06 Plus - More comfort / quieter + Better Wet / Wet Braking performance.
Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4 - More sporty feeling + Better Dry / Dry Braking performance.

I pulled the trigger on the Continental ExtremeContact DWS06 Plus. I prefer little bit extra ride quality and noise for little bit of performance since LA roads are really really bad. Finally gonna get rid of Dunflops tomorrow.

 

[Anthony_Jackson787]

So here is my quick update!

I got these DWS06 Plus installed today, boy it was a totally different experience. I felt like I was riding on the cloud, finally I feel like I'm driving a luxury car instead of a beat up econobox. Went through multiple bumps and shitty road with the new tires and it felt substantially better than Dunflops. Also, my car did not wander around like Dunflops did on uneven roads like my car was drunk or some sht. I still don't understand why those Dunflops tires are $550 each.

My previous post stated that I had worse 0-60 time on Dunflops after installing JB4 than without JB4. I tried to do a pull today on the new tires with TCS on and TCS did not even kick in. Then I did a pull without TCS. At first I notice a little slip on the rear tires for a brief second, then it hooked in and boom, car just took off. I timed my 0-60 manually and it was 4.6 seconds (probably not accurate). I believe Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4 can hook better than Continental DWS06 Plus slightly bit.

My tires are also still on their break in period so the performance might not be at their full potential but the grip, ride comfort, steering feels are amazing (Michelin might be a little better here).

Now I understand why Q50/60 owners said the first mod should be the tires. No regret on my purchase, in fact it is the best purchase I have done on my car ever. Don't underestimate how much of a difference tires can make.

I highly recommend either of these 2 tires. If you want more comfort and wet/snow performance, go for Continentals. If you want more performance and sporty feeling, go for Michelins. But either way you'd only make your Q 10x better.

 

[Anthony_Jackson787]

I'll come back to this post and update my experience with the tires later!

 

[Anthony_Jackson787]

Poll is 50/50!

 

[Anthony_Jackson787]

Mine aren't installed yet. Waiting on spring to install my new to me RS wheels with them BUT I did swap the Dumflops out, and installed some ContiProContact Non-RFT tires on and I dont notice the Contis being noiser. Comfort is definately there tho, car doesn't wander as much as the Dumflops and drives alot better road feel and feedback wise.

I do notice car wanders around through bumps and uneven road with Dunflops run flat

 

[Anthony_Jackson787]

The ride quality and grip are noticeably better than the OEM tires.
For noise, didn't pay much attention to it so I would say the same or better than OEM (OEM tires didn't bother me too).
Cant tell how they compare to the DWS06+.

Thanks!

 

[Anthony_Jackson787]

When I bought mine used in June, it came with Bridgestone runflats. They didn't seem as bad as the Dunlops everyone complains about, but I did have issues with keeping a straight line on bumpy roads, and the ride quality and grip didn't seem as good as my Maxima (which were Continentals).

One tire went flat last week, but I couldn't drive the 50 or so miles on it to get home from work, I started sliding/wiggling like if you have an actual flat tire. I wasn't on the rims, but I didn't feel I could drive in a straight line safely. What a waste, "runflat" my butt.

The Nissan dealer was nearby, but they didn't have any 19" tires. They said there wasn't anything they could do for me, the tire wouldn't hold air. Luckily there was a Belle Tire a couple doors down. I figured I might as well replace all 4 tires.

They convinced me to go with the Michelin Pilot 4 A/S over the DWS06+. The Michelins were probably $100 more, but they had some rating sheet showing the Michelins being a bit better (Overall an 8.7 vs the 7 for the DWS06+). I don't have the sheets in front of me, but if people are interested I can dig them out.

They feel a LOT better than the Runflats I was on. I don't regret the decision...

Either one are fantastic tires, and huge upgrade over runflat. Depends on the shop, some ranks Conti over Michelin such as tire rack, where as other rank Michelin over Conti.

After these Conti are done, i'll definitely do Michelin.

 

[Anthony_Jackson787]

OP - since you said you live in CA. Did you have the All-season Dunlop RFT or the summer version? Just curious.

All season came stock OEM SP sport 5000 dsst ctt rf

 

[Anthony_Jackson787]

Based on that I would highly consider a summer tire like MPS 4s.

Noise and ride is very comparable a blind test you’d prob barely notice the difference. They both have a little road noise nothing crazy. I do/did have aftermarket exhaust which isn’t crazy loud but always present and is the primary noise I hear.

I’ve seen people compare A/S 3+ vs dws 06 and state the noise difference with dws 06 being much better, but from my understanding and also experience with a/s 3+ to a/s 4 the 4 improved on ride quality while also improving wet/snow as well and maintaining dry performance, where as the dws 06 always having a nicer ride and better wet/snow but lacking dry performance, improved more on dry grip going to the dws 06+ while maintaining the previous qualities. Making them much more comparable and even overall.

looks, i mean its a tire.. i guess if i had to choose the dws 06+ is probably a more aesthetic tread pattern.

to me they are pretty much 99% the same and I’d let price dictate my decision most likely. I was initially being cheap when I bought the dws 06+ instead of rebuying the a/s 4, but despite the cheaper price for me (almost $200) at the time it did not seem I sacrificed anything at all.

only thing i havent been able to tell is longevity. Which would ultimately be my deciding factor between the two as the tie breaker if I had more information on that.

Thank you so much! The reason why I want to go with All Season is because of the ride quality. Summer Tires tend to be more harsh and noisy than All Season counter part. I have FI exhaust so I'd probably not gonna notice the road noise differences between those 2. The price difference is exactly $89 between those 2 (1,166 for Michelins and 1,077 for Continentals). I only put on like 6k miles a year. Looks like imma go with Michelin.

 

[Anthony_Jackson787]

My DWS06’s 245/40RF19’s have been great - maybe 20k on them and zero complaints. The OEM RF Dunlop summer tires were barely ok in Texas dry summer weather but were horrible when wet / cold. Ride & handling with the DWS06’s was a major improvement. When it comes time to get a new set of tires - I will have to take a look at those Michelins though. I’ve heard a lot of good things and might do a test drive mounting of them at Discount Tire if they will let me compare them to the new DWS06+’s.

It was raining hard 2 weeks ago in LA area, man it was hard to drive. My car was literally gliding through the puddle. In LA, our roads are really bad with a bunch of pot holes and uneven pavement, car feels like a boat on those OEM RF tires.

 

[Anthony_Jackson787]

Had A/S 4 on Q50 have DWS 06+ on Q60, they are both phenomenal tires. Very comparable, really can’t tell much of a difference. Both cars AWD and could both put power down in the rain, and obviously dry. I’d just go with whatever is cheaper. If a sub $100 price difference I might swing for the Michelin just because the brand rep. Or maybe if frequent wet maybe go conti. I live near Seattle so I get to experience the wet traction a lot and am still amazed how well they both performed paired with AWD in the rain/wet.

Thanks for your help. I live in LA area so we don't even know what snow is and it barely rain like 10 days in a year. Based on my research on Tirerack and Tyre Reviews with YouTube here and there, people say A/S 4 noise is more noticeable, and firmer drive than DWS6+ with better dry performance and grip.

How is the noise and ride quality of A/S 4 vs DWS6+?

Also for tire looks, which one do you prefer?

 

[Anthony_Jackson787]

Tirerack ranks the DWS 06 Plus #1 in the A/S UHP category. Michelin wasnt even in the top 3. But in terms of myself, I went with the DWS06 Plus because in Canada, there are no AS4 to be found. The DWS06 Plus were readily availible. Supply chain issues. But oddly theres still tons of stock on the A/S 3+ which is discontinued.

But honestly, either option are going to be great and 100% upgrade and better than the stock Dumflops. Even my winter tires Toyo Garit KX when I winter drove my Q felt 10 times better road feel than the Dumflops


**Edit, looks like DWS06+ is now #2 on the Tirerack rankings. #3 is Mich AS4 and #1 is Vredestin tires. The margin between Mic/Conti is so close.

Since you live in California where there is no risk of snow, go with the Michelin. The Conti's are a bit better in snow weather View attachment 105639

Wow these 2 are neck in neck, comfort slightly favors Conti and dry performance favors Michelin. How is the comfort and noise on your Conti compare to Dunflops?

 

[Anthony_Jackson787]

or...option 3.

michelin as3+.

I am also in cakifornia. good in the wet and have decent grip.

they have a nice fat rim guard as well.

My local tire shops don't offer AS3+ anymore and they replaced it with AS4

 

[Anthony_Jackson787]

Good review comparing the DWS06+ and the PS A/S 4 (and few others).
Look for the tables comparing the tires at the end of each part.

Based on this review and some others the PS A/S 4 is better in dry while DWS06+ better for wet.
I live in south California and picked the PS A/S 4 a couple of weeks ago.

How is the road noise, and ride quality?

 

[Anthony_Jackson787]

You will never go wrong with either of them.

But if I were to buy an A/S again, I'd still go with Michelin because:

• Michelin is the easiest to work with in terms of warranty (not that you need it but just in case)
• The A/S 4s require the least amount of weights among the tires I've had. This would also depend on the wheel and I figure many wouldn't care. But I do care since any visible weights on my current wheels is an eyesore.

What do you mean by weights? I have Q60 wheels currently on Dunflop OEM