[Avedis53]

To get back into OP's topic, you're wrong about the dates Nissan have been using EDRs. They've been for a while now. In my family there are few Nissan vehicles and I can tell you, from my 06 350z, 08 Altima coupe and 09 370z, that all of them have EDRs. Info is in the manual, the last pages.

I should have been more concise about EDRs. While there may have been rudimentary EDRs in Nissans before 2012, the ability to extract and translate usable data from them hadn't been standardized. Nissan (and Infiniti) vehicles manufactured before 2012 are considered "non-CDR" vehicles as their data can not be downloaded by the Bosch/Vetronix CDR (Crash Data Retrieval) system. That Bosch CDR system is the industry standard for vehicle crash investigators and if the vehicle in question is outside the Bosch CDR application set, the crash investigators won't pursue EDR data retrieval as the data can be incomplete or incompletely translated.

No doubt Nissan has their own proprietary data retrieval tools that can access their non-CDR vehicle's data but it can be compromised when provided to other parties because of the same reasons I listed above.

So technically, you are correct but from a litigation standpoint, any resultant translation and interpretation of EDR data must be stated with reasonable engineering certainty and must meet clear tests before they are admissible in court. Non-CDR vehicle data could be considered compromised if the data retrieval is incomplete or incompletely translated by retrieval tools as stated above. So, in essence, pre-2012 Nissan/Infiniti EDR data isn't considered as reliable as post-2012 EDR data.

 

[Avedis53]

**** all these years we thought the Russian's got to Hitler first, little did we know he was sitting on his ass at Oma's playing Xbox!
And here we all thought he died 70+ years ago, a more crafty dictator there never was.

Don't you watch the History channel? Hitler escaped to Argentina and has been running a bed and breakfast in Buenos Aires.

 

[Avedis53]

That's charlie Chaplin playing xbox.

That's interesting since Chapin died about 25 years before the Xbox came out. Nice try though.

 

[Avedis53]

I think the PC world took that term back.

Says the guy using Adolph Hitler as an avatar. LOL!

 

[Avedis53]

Seriously? Infiniti only since 2012? I didn't realize Nissan was such a antiquated, backwater type of company.

The earliest year I've found EDRs for Infiniti is 2012 for the G25 sedan. The G37 in 2013. The Q50 from 2014 on. I couldn't find any Nissan vehicles earlier than 2012.

Interesting fact is that American car manufacturers like Ford and GM have been installing EDRs in certain models since the mid-90's. European and Asian manufacturers with the exception of Toyota didn't start until after 2011. Toyota/Lexus started in 2001 (Camry, Lexus ES,LS,SC).

According to the NHTSA, 96% of the 2012 vehicles sold in the US have some form of EDR in them.

 

[Avedis53]

Major manufacturers like Ford and GM have had EDRs for at least the last 15 years. Infiniti has since 2012 and I believe they are made by Bosch. They are standard equipment on all cars now in the US from what I've read.

EDR data access is governed by the Driver Privacy Act.

"The federal Driver Privacy Act of 2015 was enacted on December 4, 2015. It stated that the owner or lessee of a motor vehicle is the owner of the data collected by the EDR. In order to access that data, an investigator would need to (1) be authorized by a court or judicial or administrative authority, subject to the standards for admission into evidence; (2) obtain the written, electronic or recorded audio consent of the vehicle owner or lessee; (3) be conducting an investigation or inspection authorized by federal law; (4) demonstrate it is necessary to facilitate medical care in response to a car accident; or (5) be conducting traffic safety research, so long as the personal information of the owner/lessee is not disclosed."