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Theyre able to get away with it because of the closed loop WOT and wideband O2's correcting for fueling. They would have been ALOT smarter to offer 2 versions, 1 RS and 1 non and add 5 psi or so for a non-RS. People would have gotten more excited about a 75 hp bump for the non-RS and it still would have been perfectly safe. A bit late for sure. I am interested in what the extra connector is for. There 1 to connect to the HotBox, 4 to get inline with the map sensors, and then there's 1 more....Maybe stealing power from elsewhere?

 

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I was on the FB page watching this launch unfold and man is that community TOXIC AF. There was literal hate for this product from JB1/4 stans. Am I one of the only people that get excited for new stuff for this platform? Knock off, Copy, Original, or Similar, I feel like its all good for the platform. As much as I dont personally like some of the stuff that's used in the B&C turbo kit (no name turbos, cheaper brand parts), I by no means hate on them nor wish them bad fortune. On the fence if I would every run their stuff, but that's just me. I can be swayed with good results from Community. I am glad people are out there R&D the platform further. I get not everyone Wants to pay AMS prices, but I look at it at Good, Best, Better tiers when I look at Mods and Tuners. Everyone can make a buck if they make a good product.

This Hot box has a place for this platform.

Now I hope Z1s rumored Turbo kit is around the corner. They look like Bigger Casting OEM turbos. If that is true and they are direct fit but allow me to run full 93 with out the need for Flex like the Pures, thats the way I want to go.

I left those groups for that reason. If you arent tuned by 1 of 3 companies, spent 2G on an exhaust, and have wheels an inch wider than your tires....it's trash. Ignorance really is bliss.

 

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But it increases the factory boost level without letting you verify it's safe. Even at the low boost pressure it adds people have had issues with the jb4 that the logging caught. It's why the jb1 isn't recommended at all. What works for most cars may not for some, and fuel quality makes a huge difference.

This is an over simplification. Is it true that the car doesnt know its making more boost? Yes. Does the car still know how much airflow is being consumed? Yes. Does the car still compensate for the extra airflow with extra fueling at WOT? Yes. Does the car still pull timing in the event it detects knock? Yes.

 

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Of course it's an oversimplification. There's pages of discussion covering how these devices work. It's all been said before, and if you want to know more you can read those threads.

LOL, I've WRITTEN some of those threads. Telling people there is no place for devices like this is about as ignorant as it gets.

 

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Agreed, so you shouldn't say that. And I know you're not ignorant enough to think me saying "other devices do this better" is saying "there's no place for devices like this," so the last thing I feel like doing on a sunday is engaging with a forum troll lmao

Allow me to quote your first post in this thread just so we're clear who the troll is.

...I still think it's a **** product...

When you understand how this stuff works and contribute to this site instead of running your mouth based on what you read on FB, THEN we can have a discussion. Enjoy your Sunday.

 

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Super Bowl today. Everyone enjoy!

 

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You know what, it's the Super Bowl. Everyone have a great day and enjoy. Go Eagles!

 

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Go Chiefs!!😎

Hell to the no!

 

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Longtime Chiefs Nation fans are praying we don’t embarrass ourselves… 🥴

It's a good one so far!

 

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Wahoo - Go Chiefs Nation !! 🎉

Make sure you tip your refs.

 

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Check is in the mail - we also have some gift cards headed to the turf team (the Eagles were slipping and sliding all night.)

Between the conference championship botched call with the Bengals and now this with the Eagles it was obv. a KC year. I'm amazed they gave Mahomes MVP, but shouldnt be. I don't like KC, but dislike when the game is taken out of the players hands even more. If we disnt have people over i woild have shut the game off after that call. It was already too much after the gifted illegal substitution flag that gave KC a chance to review and challenge earlier.

Turf is no excuse since they both played on the same field. I don't want to hear any complaints from either side on that lol.