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Continental ExtremeContact DWS 06 vs Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4

Continental ExtremeContact DWS 06 Plus vs Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4

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#1 ·
I'm ready to pull the trigger this weekend on new set of tires. I have narrowed down to these 2 options to replace OEM Dunflops Runflat. Even though I live in California and don't have snow or a lot of rain; Comfortability of All Season tires can be really nice for our cars instead of Max Performance Summer Tires since I don't track my car.

The price difference between these 2 set is only $100 for all 4 tires.

I have neither used Continental or Michelin before so I really want to see what you guys think between these top 2 UHP All season tires
 
#8 ·

Good review comparing the DWS06+ and the PS A/S 4 (and few others).
Look for the tables comparing the tires at the end of each part.

Based on this review and some others the PS A/S 4 is better in dry while DWS06+ better for wet.
I live in south California and picked the PS A/S 4 a couple of weeks ago.
 
#2 ·
In my experience all-season tires tend to last longer than dedicated max performance summers and it never hurts to have a tire that can handle random weather
if your on a road trip so they are what I normally recommend.

Both are great tires but I've only driven on the Conti's by the numbers however the Pilot sport All seasons 4 are a bit better overall
and the quality control from Michelin is excellent.

So if its only $100 probably the Michelins.
 
#3 ·
I just made this decision and went with the Continentals since my installer had a $200 price difference. I will only run these during winter and then it is back to my summer setup so any marginal performance difference is not important to me. Some sites (maybe Tirerack) had the Continentals slightly higher than the Michelins and others had the Michelins higher.

For year-round use and only a $100 difference, I would go with the Michelins personally.
 
#22 ·
Had A/S 4 on Q50 have DWS 06+ on Q60, they are both phenomenal tires. Very comparable, really can’t tell much of a difference. Both cars AWD and could both put power down in the rain, and obviously dry. I’d just go with whatever is cheaper. If a sub $100 price difference I might swing for the Michelin just because the brand rep. Or maybe if frequent wet maybe go conti. I live near Seattle so I get to experience the wet traction a lot and am still amazed how well they both performed paired with AWD in the rain/wet.
 
#24 ·
Thanks for your help. I live in LA area so we don't even know what snow is and it barely rain like 10 days in a year. Based on my research on Tirerack and Tyre Reviews with YouTube here and there, people say A/S 4 noise is more noticeable, and firmer drive than DWS6+ with better dry performance and grip.

How is the noise and ride quality of A/S 4 vs DWS6+?

Also for tire looks, which one do you prefer?
 
#35 ·
After my thorough research, here is my conclusion:

Since these 2 tires are the best of their class, and have very little differences in performance. It comes down to personal preferences boiled down to performance vs comfort. I have no input for snow performance since I live in California.

Continental ExtremeContact DWS06 Plus - More comfort / quieter + Better Wet / Wet Braking performance.
Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4 - More sporty feeling + Better Dry / Dry Braking performance.

I pulled the trigger on the Continental ExtremeContact DWS06 Plus. I prefer little bit extra ride quality and noise for little bit of performance since LA roads are really really bad. Finally gonna get rid of Dunflops tomorrow.
 
#36 ·
You will be amazed.
 
#38 ·
So here is my quick update!

I got these DWS06 Plus installed today, boy it was a totally different experience. I felt like I was riding on the cloud, finally I feel like I'm driving a luxury car instead of a beat up econobox. Went through multiple bumps and shitty road with the new tires and it felt substantially better than Dunflops. Also, my car did not wander around like Dunflops did on uneven roads like my car was drunk or some sht. I still don't understand why those Dunflops tires are $550 each.

My previous post stated that I had worse 0-60 time on Dunflops after installing JB4 than without JB4. I tried to do a pull today on the new tires with TCS on and TCS did not even kick in. Then I did a pull without TCS. At first I notice a little slip on the rear tires for a brief second, then it hooked in and boom, car just took off. I timed my 0-60 manually and it was 4.6 seconds (probably not accurate). I believe Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4 can hook better than Continental DWS06 Plus slightly bit.

My tires are also still on their break in period so the performance might not be at their full potential but the grip, ride comfort, steering feels are amazing (Michelin might be a little better here).

Now I understand why Q50/60 owners said the first mod should be the tires. No regret on my purchase, in fact it is the best purchase I have done on my car ever. Don't underestimate how much of a difference tires can make.

I highly recommend either of these 2 tires. If you want more comfort and wet/snow performance, go for Continentals. If you want more performance and sporty feeling, go for Michelins. But either way you'd only make your Q 10x better.
 
#39 ·
So here is my quick update!

I got these DWS06 Plus installed today, boy it was a totally different experience. I felt like I was riding on the cloud, finally I feel like I'm driving a luxury car instead of a beat up econobox. Went through multiple bumps and shitty road with the new tires and it felt substantially better than Dunflops. Also, my car did not wander around like Dunflops did on uneven roads like my car was drunk or some sht. I still don't understand why those Dunflops tires are $550 each.

My previous post stated that I had worse 0-60 time on Dunflops after installing JB4 than without JB4. I tried to do a pull today on the new tires with TCS on and TCS did not even kick in. Then I did a pull without TCS. At first I notice a little slip on the rear tires for a brief second, then it hooked in and boom, car just took off. I timed my 0-60 manually and it was 4.6 seconds (probably not accurate). I believe Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4 can hook better than Continental DWS06 Plus slightly bit.

My tires are also still on their break in period so the performance might not be at their full potential but the grip, ride comfort, steering feels are amazing (Michelin might be a little better here).

Now I understand why Q50/60 owners said the first mod should be the tires. No regret on my purchase, in fact it is the best purchase I have done on my car ever. Don't underestimate how much of a difference tires can make.

I highly recommend either of these 2 tires. If you want more comfort and wet/snow performance, go for Continentals. If you want more performance and sporty feeling, go for Michelins. But either way you'd only make your Q 10x better.
See post #36.
 
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For that small of a price difference, Michelins
 
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#15 · (Edited)
Tirerack ranks the DWS 06 Plus #1 in the A/S UHP category. Michelin wasnt even in the top 3. But in terms of myself, I went with the DWS06 Plus because in Canada, there are no AS4 to be found. The DWS06 Plus were readily availible. Supply chain issues. But oddly theres still tons of stock on the A/S 3+ which is discontinued.

But honestly, either option are going to be great and 100% upgrade and better than the stock Dumflops. Even my winter tires Toyo Garit KX when I winter drove my Q felt 10 times better road feel than the Dumflops


**Edit, looks like DWS06+ is now #2 on the Tirerack rankings. #3 is Mich AS4 and #1 is Vredestin tires. The margin between Mic/Conti is so close.

Since you live in California where there is no risk of snow, go with the Michelin. The Conti's are a bit better in snow weather
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#18 ·
Wow these 2 are neck in neck, comfort slightly favors Conti and dry performance favors Michelin. How is the comfort and noise on your Conti compare to Dunflops?
 
#23 ·
My DWS06’s 245/40RF19’s have been great - maybe 20k on them and zero complaints. The OEM RF Dunlop summer tires were barely ok in Texas dry summer weather but were horrible when wet / cold. Ride & handling with the DWS06’s was a major improvement. When it comes time to get a new set of tires - I will have to take a look at those Michelins though. I’ve heard a lot of good things and might do a test drive mounting of them at Discount Tire if they will let me compare them to the new DWS06+’s.
 
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#26 ·
It was raining hard 2 weeks ago in LA area, man it was hard to drive. My car was literally gliding through the puddle. In LA, our roads are really bad with a bunch of pot holes and uneven pavement, car feels like a boat on those OEM RF tires.
 
#43 ·
When I bought mine used in June, it came with Bridgestone runflats. They didn't seem as bad as the Dunlops everyone complains about, but I did have issues with keeping a straight line on bumpy roads, and the ride quality and grip didn't seem as good as my Maxima (which were Continentals).

One tire went flat last week, but I couldn't drive the 50 or so miles on it to get home from work, I started sliding/wiggling like if you have an actual flat tire. I wasn't on the rims, but I didn't feel I could drive in a straight line safely. What a waste, "runflat" my butt.

The Nissan dealer was nearby, but they didn't have any 19" tires. They said there wasn't anything they could do for me, the tire wouldn't hold air. Luckily there was a Belle Tire a couple doors down. I figured I might as well replace all 4 tires.

They convinced me to go with the Michelin Pilot 4 A/S over the DWS06+. The Michelins were probably $100 more, but they had some rating sheet showing the Michelins being a bit better (Overall an 8.7 vs the 7 for the DWS06+). I don't have the sheets in front of me, but if people are interested I can dig them out.

They feel a LOT better than the Runflats I was on. I don't regret the decision...
 
#44 ·
When I bought mine used in June, it came with Bridgestone runflats. They didn't seem as bad as the Dunlops everyone complains about, but I did have issues with keeping a straight line on bumpy roads, and the ride quality and grip didn't seem as good as my Maxima (which were Continentals).

One tire went flat last week, but I couldn't drive the 50 or so miles on it to get home from work, I started sliding/wiggling like if you have an actual flat tire. I wasn't on the rims, but I didn't feel I could drive in a straight line safely. What a waste, "runflat" my butt.

The Nissan dealer was nearby, but they didn't have any 19" tires. They said there wasn't anything they could do for me, the tire wouldn't hold air. Luckily there was a Belle Tire a couple doors down. I figured I might as well replace all 4 tires.

They convinced me to go with the Michelin Pilot 4 A/S over the DWS06+. The Michelins were probably $100 more, but they had some rating sheet showing the Michelins being a bit better (Overall an 8.7 vs the 7 for the DWS06+). I don't have the sheets in front of me, but if people are interested I can dig them out.

They feel a LOT better than the Runflats I was on. I don't regret the decision...
Either one are fantastic tires, and huge upgrade over runflat. Depends on the shop, some ranks Conti over Michelin such as tire rack, where as other rank Michelin over Conti.

After these Conti are done, i'll definitely do Michelin.
 
#6 ·
You will never go wrong with either of them.

But if I were to buy an A/S again, I'd still go with Michelin because:
  • Michelin is the easiest to work with in terms of warranty (not that you need it but just in case)
  • The A/S 4s require the least amount of weights among the tires I've had. This would also depend on the wheel and I figure many wouldn't care. But I do care since any visible weights on my current wheels is an eyesore.
 
#7 ·
You will never go wrong with either of them.

But if I were to buy an A/S again, I'd still go with Michelin because:
  • Michelin is the easiest to work with in terms of warranty (not that you need it but just in case)
  • The A/S 4s require the least amount of weights among the tires I've had. This would also depend on the wheel and I figure many wouldn't care. But I do care since any visible weights on my current wheels is an eyesore.
What do you mean by weights? I have Q60 wheels currently on Dunflop OEM
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#30 ·
the A/S 4 is not, the A/S 4 ZP
 
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^ no sir - the Dunlops were RF's.
 
#47 ·
Although not the same category since its summer I'm interested to see how the Pilot Sport 5 does when its released in March
 
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#52 ·
A bunch of typical marketing speak but I am skeptical if anyone would notice a 1.7% (wet) or 1.5% (dry) performance increase as a daily driver?
Michelin Pilot Sport 5 Tires Are an Evolution of the Iconic Industry Standard
Look at the difference from 4 to 4s.
I would hope for a similar improvement from 5 to 5s.

I believe the 4 / 5 is slightly more aimed towards “comfort” obviously still a great performance tire, but the 4s and future 5s is more aimed at total pure performance.
 
#53 · (Edited)
Source: TireRack.com - F: 245/40R19 R: 265/35R19 (OEM RS400 RWD)

My choice is the DW06 - I'll sacrifice a minuscule amount of dry performance for almost twice the expected tire life and better ratings in every other category. They're also $366 less for the set.

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