Cool video. I love the design of the Alfas!

 

Yeah, they are very attractive cars.

 

Look’s nice but I’m surprised the video didn’t break down before it was over.

 

I love their styling, and Giulia Quadrifoglio is a superbly performing vehicle according to all reviews I've seen. Unfortunately, Alfa Romeo vehicles have a bad reputation for in-service reliability.

 

Yeah, the jury is out on these new models. I hope they are more reliable. I really love the look of the Giulia. I'd want one if they had a model in between the 2.0t and the Quadrifoglio with like 350-400 hp. I would love a Quadrifoglio, but it's a little out of my budget.

 

I'm not personally sold on the looks but it's a strong entry in the sport-sedan segment and hopefully shows the other manufactures
that there is still people who enjoy a performance oriented car.

That said the cheat tires (R-rated compound) they put on the Quadrofolio kind of makes me question how good
that specific model is.

 

Giulia is pure sex. Agreed with Hunter, really need something in between given the massive price gap. that and infiniti style lease programs.

 

They look nice but have more reliability problems than a Yugo. Of the 11 TSBs currently listed for the Giulia, 9 of them are RRTs (Rapid Response Transmittal) which are of a higher priority than TSBs. Everything from engine and transmission problems to infotainment system lockups and safety system issues. Having said all that, most brand new cars will have numerous RRTs. However, the frequency and severity of this car's issues appear to be above average and may be due to the rushed development of the car.

 

took them ages to come out again, can't even remember if that was over 2 or 3 decades ago...so yes they probably need about 50 years lol. At least toyota engineers only needed 1 decade to create the LFA.

 

It's disturbing that the test car they gave out ended up breaking down. That is unacceptable

 

yep, a friend of mine also test drove one. It stalled and had to be towed back to the dealership.

 

Revisited the Alfa platform again last night as we hunt for a vehicle for the wife and I now remembered why I passed on the $78k Gulia when I was looking. Thest best way to describe them inside is they are quirky and not as intuitive as they need to be for this pricing. Sure, performance wise the 2.9l goes like **** and outside the sedan is good looking but that's not where we as drivers live.

Anyone looking at them, just be sure to spend some time in it on the road, adjusting the radio and using the controls. Perhaps it works for some but for me, no. The biggest thing for me is the insanely stupid small the camera display is and the GPS, while not a feature I use often, is also not very big or useful. Their designers really need to move into a touch screen system or spend some time in a newer German car to see how an MMI Controller works as their sis a PIA.

Sad, as my wife really likes the Stelvio. Not 100% out of the picture as she has to spend a day in it yet but when compared to the competition, our initial impressions are not putting it in the lead. The 2.0l moves well for a 4cyl and is quiet, super smooth and not buzzy. I do NOT like the auto shut-off at stops though so that's another PIA that would need tuned out vs hitting the button upon every start up. Ride wise, it handles well but the SUV suspension leads you to really feel it's short wheel base. Not so with others. Bummed.

 

I liked the Giulia but passed on it for a few key reasons.

The infotainment was rudimentary. The engine redline was only 5800. The interior quality was not as good as the Q50. The key fob was unusually large and bulky. Last but not least, the dealership experience was a major step back from what I was used to from Infiniti.

 

I looked at the Giulia b4 getting the Q50 RS. The lease deal on the Giulia Ti MSRP $52K. They had $4-5K in rebates. They wanted $2K down and $650 a month for 36 months!! Crazzzzzzzzzzzzzy!!

 

Dang that's pricey for only the TI.

 

We were at $618mo. On a $53k Stelvio . 39mo./12k yr. That's through Allied Leasing as they have better rates than Chrysler. 1.9% with a 49% residual. It's the worst lease deal of the handful we are looking at this far.

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Maaaaaaan, that Giulia is POPPIN’! Those wheels are gorgeous on it too!

 

Hi damonb10

New to the forum.

All good points, but you really hit the nail on the head with your last comment about the dealer experience. I'm not as upset about the low tech and lesser interior quality because the driving dynamics make up for quite a bit of that in my opinion. Great Alfa dealers seem to be in the minority, and seem to be paired with Maserati dealers according to the Giulia forums. The dealers paired with Fiat seem to leave a lot to be desired nationwide (again according to the forums), and that's been my experience as well.

I'm a year out from my Giulia lease expiring and the Q50 is certainly in the running for its replacement (looking at sport and red sport), just due to the sales dept experience I had at two San Diego dealers, and the service experience I had at one of them.

The dealer experience at Infiniti was a substantial difference from the typical Alfa/Fiat dealer experience, which takes me back to the Kia dealer ads that seem to all have the same format and run nationwide. I almost expect an inflatable dinosaur to magically appear out front as soon as I start talking to the people who work at Alfa dealers.

One of the three local dealers seems to have its act together, though, and to the contrary of popular legend, my Giulia has been rock-solid and trouble-free; it has only been in the shop for software updates and expected routine maintenance which I have had performed ahead of schedule. Most of the press car failures and early adopter problem cars were software-related as well, and most have been resolved.

That said I need to take another test drive (on a dry day this time) and see what the 300-HP sport will do, then check out what its 400-HP stablemate has to offer. Initial impressions were good, though.

Rob

 

do I see more than 3 degrees of negative camber in the rear?