This is one tough battle. I am a big fan of the new 335i. Even if it is a poor mans M3 it is still a respectable drivers car.
Why did you choose the Q50 over the 335i?
Why did you choose the Q50 over the 335i?
Infiniti Q50 vs BMW 335i
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smdh! We all know how notorious Kia and Hyundai are with mimicking Japanase\German designs! (Benz,Q45, Bentley, etc...)
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I believe it's been mentioned several times how the Q50 sits firmly in between the 328 and the 335 in terms of both output/performance and price
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Hmmm, to my eyes that profile of the tail lights resemble several other cars out there and not inherently similar to the Q50. I think that's just a common design thread among many cars these days. It's not the shape that's important anymore, rather the pattern and brightness of the lights matter a bit more to me.The is Kia's coming luxury sedan. The side view of the taillight is the same as the Q50.
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If the Cadenza was the sister to the Azera, this K900 looks to be the sister to the Genesis
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I wish the younger generation would realize that a lot of people have no idea what these acronyms mean(or maybe that's the idea!). Yes, I did look it up, but it's just one more annoyance of our modern "education."
I noticed that too. Mildly annoying.
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As you know, we have to adapt to these things over time.
I don't know if it has anything to do with a "younger" generation--rather, it has more to do with one's own adoption and familiarity with the internet and technology age of communication and social education. Those who have not fully immersed themselves in that communication might feel the frustration of experiencing a bit of a learning period. One may interpret this as an annoyance.
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As you know, we have to adapt to these things over time.
I don't know if it has anything to do with a "younger" generation--rather, it has more to do with one's own adoption and familiarity with the internet and technology age of communication and social education. Those who have not fully immersed themselves in that communication might feel the frustration of experiencing a bit of a learning period. One may interpret this as an annoyance.
Of course you have a point, but having been in the classroom with teenagers for 36 years, I've seen that many these days view learning proper English(spelling grammar, syntax) as an annoyance.
I know that we've been down this road before, but it still is annoying to read someone's post and not understand it, either because of poor English skills or their reliance on texting communication. My generation was taught that it was the WRITER'S responsibility to make his thoughts clear. Just to be clear, I have no problem with looking up new words and concepts - it's called learning - and asking for help when I still don't understand something. Those who have been here a while KNOW that about me. I would just like to be able to read a post without having to figure out what's been said.
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Fully loaded 2014 328xi with m package navi plus bak up cam cost more than a sport premium q50s and the infiniti is better in everyday only if ur a huge German fan but q50 is definitely best bang for the buck.
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Sure...if you are only talking about 0-60 and a 1/4 mile run. The Q50 gasser is definately out matched over the same distances if the 335i and S4 have tunes. This is all considered if the performance is measured from a dig.
And yes, 0-60 and the 1/4 mile run are our standard measurements for a car's performance; however, it does not always translate into real world applications. At highway speeds, the 335i and S4 loses their torque advantages over the Q50 gasser and it truly becomes a driver's race.
I can't speak for the S4 personally, but I have on several occasions outran 335i's (without a tune) in my G37 coupe.
R&T measured the performance up to 130 mph...guess who comes out on top?
The Sweet Science: IS350 F-Sport v. BMW 335i v ATS V6 v Q50 - R&T Comparison - Road & Track
The dual clutch in the S4 and the ZF 8 speed in the 335i is MILES better than the Infiniti 7 speed tranny.
The S4 and 335i will trash a gas Q50S in a 0-60, 1/4 mile, or any higher speed race. No doubt in my mind about it.
The Q50S Hybrid will keep up but even then I am doubtful. The 7 speed auto isn't as slick as the DCT or the ZF 8 speed transmission in the German competition. On top of that, by the time you get up to speed, the battery in the Hybrid will have drained.
The S4 and 335i will trash a gas Q50S in a 0-60, 1/4 mile, or any higher speed race. No doubt in my mind about it.
The Q50S Hybrid will keep up but even then I am doubtful. The 7 speed auto isn't as slick as the DCT or the ZF 8 speed transmission in the German competition. On top of that, by the time you get up to speed, the battery in the Hybrid will have drained.
By the time you hit 130MPH, you've lost the race against the 335i. The lead the 335i built up in terms of distance will be too big.
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Andrew,
I have very little knowledge about the torque/hp science. All I know is from reading the rags, and other forums. Hopefully, someone else in the forum could better speak to that.
You are right tho; the 335i has its 300 lb/ft of torque available at 1200 rpm, which is absolutely ridiculous. BMW is known for its awesome transmission, so yeah, it is able to get the tq/hp from the crank with minimal power loss. Thus, this translates to its great 0-60 times; throw in the tunes, it could almost outrun the M3 to 60.
However, my understanding is, the 335i torque goes flat in 5th gear. This is about the time the VQHR37 comes into its own.
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plus when the 335 is dyno it has way more than 300 hp n 300 torque at the wheel, them germans are all humble on the numbers lol!
they are almost like 17-20k difference, for a gas q50s premium n and fully loaded 335 xdrive plus m package so for the price it's fair but when it comes to reliability and maintence cost we should all know what's up haha
plus when the 335 is dyno it has way more than 300 hp n 300 torque at the wheel, them germans are all humble on the numbers lol!
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Well...Yes and no.
If you compare a base model Q50S RWD, I believe it's around $44k.
If you compare a fully loaded 335xi M-Sport, I believe it's around $62k.
I think this is how the math was calculated by yougotrice, however it ultimately creates a bad comparison in this case.
A better comparison would be to compare a fully loaded Q50S Hybrid AWD, which is around $56k.
So I guess both of you are right, depending on how you look at.
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