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I don't think anyone expects it not to work, it's just not as good or as safe as what's already out there. You can't log with it right?
 
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No, can’t log but it does not interfere with the factory manifold pressure sensor, so the Q is able to operate within the factory mapped fuel and timing tables.
But it increases the factory boost level without letting you verify it's safe. Even at the low boost pressure it adds people have had issues with the jb4 that the logging caught. It's why the jb1 isn't recommended at all. What works for most cars may not for some, and fuel quality makes a huge difference.

It does what it says and it's piss cheap, but imo cheap mods are better for cheap cars.
 
But it increases the factory boost level without letting you verify it's safe. Even at the low boost pressure it adds people have had issues with the jb4 that the logging caught. It's why the jb1 isn't recommended at all. What works for most cars may not for some, and fuel quality makes a huge difference.
This is an over simplification. Is it true that the car doesnt know its making more boost? Yes. Does the car still know how much airflow is being consumed? Yes. Does the car still compensate for the extra airflow with extra fueling at WOT? Yes. Does the car still pull timing in the event it detects knock? Yes.
 
Of course it's an oversimplification. There's pages of discussion covering how these devices work. It's all been said before, and if you want to know more you can read those threads.
 
Of course it's an oversimplification. There's pages of discussion covering how these devices work. It's all been said before, and if you want to know more you can read those threads.
LOL, I've WRITTEN some of those threads. Telling people there is no place for devices like this is about as ignorant as it gets.
 
LOL, I've WRITTEN some of those threads. Telling people there is no place for devices like this is about as ignorant as it gets.
Agreed, so you shouldn't say that. And I know you're not ignorant enough to think me saying "other devices do this better" is saying "there's no place for devices like this," so the last thing I feel like doing on a sunday is engaging with a forum troll lmao
 
Agreed, so you shouldn't say that. And I know you're not ignorant enough to think me saying "other devices do this better" is saying "there's no place for devices like this," so the last thing I feel like doing on a sunday is engaging with a forum troll lmao
Allow me to quote your first post in this thread just so we're clear who the troll is.
...I still think it's a **** product...
When you understand how this stuff works and contribute to this site instead of running your mouth based on what you read on FB, THEN we can have a discussion. Enjoy your Sunday.
 
Allow me to quote your first post in this thread just so we're clear who the troll is.
When you understand how this stuff works and contribute to this site instead of running your mouth based on what you read on FB, THEN we can have a discussion. Enjoy your Sunday.
Yes, I said it's a **** product. You've failed to show where I said these devices don't have a place. I've already told you I'm not interested in a discussion with you slick, no is no. If you want to argue in bad faith about something you're pretending someone else said FB is the perfect place for you.
 
Clean it up or I'll close the thread.
 
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